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Old 05-04-17, 10:30 AM
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@jetboy - Universal Mod 61 center pulls. They were one of the dominant brake systems for the period. Nearly every Italian high end bike had them. The French used Mafac's in the same time period. The hoods are new from Italy from a source that used the original tooling.
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These are very nice bikes. It took me 25 years, but I finally did what I intended to do in 73, which was purchase a Giro d'Italia and slowly convert it to a Professional. But I kept the Record chromed rear and found a set of "no-Record" hubs to build new wheels with. It is the perfect mishmash and the most comfortable riding road bike I own. (Might be the fully broken in Brooks.)

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Originally Posted by juvela
Headset is a Way-Assauto (Wa).






jetboy - you mentioned on your test ride the gearing was too tall. This chainset accepts inners down to 38T whereas with a NR/SR chainset you would be limited to a 41T inner.

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yarr, that might change the equation back to keeping the Star
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Originally Posted by ldmataya
These are very nice bikes. It took me 25 years, but I finally did what I intended to do in 73, which was purchase a Giro d'Italia and slowly convert it to a Professional. But I kept the Record chromed rear and found a set of "no-Record" hubs to build new wheels with. It is the perfect mishmash and the most comfortable riding road bike I own. (Might be the fully broken in Brooks.)

Beautiful bicycle @ldmataya, I always liked a Bottecchia in white, my first one was similar, but it was the lowly to many, Special. Meant the world to a 15 yo cycling nut, at that time. The LBS I haunted back then (1971-1973) had both the Giro d'Italia and the Professional models sitting on the floor, looking so ready to be ridden fast.

Those sew up tires were like forbidden fruit to me. I almost spent a month's paper route earnings on having a set of wheels built for tubulars to use on that Special. The shops mechanic and my dad talked me back from the guard railing before I could jump.

I wanted one so badly that it physically hurt, or at least to that nutty teenager slinking around the inventory all of the time. Some day I'd love to find either a Giro or a Pro and build it up as close as I am able to, but it will have a more durable paint coating on it, their paint flaked of of those chromed tubes so easily back then.

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calipers say seatpost is a 26.8 does that jive with other owners?
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There is a trade story regarding Teddy and the Campag Record (#1020) rear mech. No claim to accuracy. Was related to me by an old timer (yes, even more annuated than me ) who was in a position to know. It states that Teddy and Tullio were old pals from their racing days in the twenties and thirties. At one point the Record rear mech had been taken out of production and Teddy wanted to use it for a particular model so he asked Tullio to put it back into production, an lo and behold it reappeared.



VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo 1020, Record

VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo 1020, Record (1965)

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its a solid piece of machinery for sure that RD. I caved and stuck the NR crank on today. should have snapped a pic but ran out the door after. also put some proper campy pedals on.
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Originally Posted by jetboy
calipers say seatpost is a 26.8 does that jive with other owners?
Your frame is tall enough, that it would be Columbus SP, which would have an 27.2mm inner diameter for the seat tube. Typically, this would result in a 27.0mm seat post being employed. However, if the tube was distorted during manufacture of the frame, it was not uncommon to simply use a smaller post that fit, rather than ream the seat tube. This was especially true during the boom years, when manufacturers were pushing out product as fast as possible, to meet the extremely high demand.

I think you'd find a fair number of SP frames from this period with 26.8mm posts and occasionally an even smaller one. However, the majority would be 27.0mm. If this were a smaller frame with SL, you'd find the majority using 27.2mm posts, with a fair number of 27.0mm posts and the odd smaller post.
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I don't have a 27.0 on me, but one of my supposedly 27.2 posts actually fits perfectly(calipers tell me its 27). sadly its sort of a modern looking post. might try it anyway as it has a nice setback..

edit: scratch that! this frame is on the large size for me and even at maximum insert that post was too high -

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Classic gearing

When I was a teenager in the 60s, I had a Bottecchia that I thought was a tremendous upgrade from my city style bike with 3 speed Sturmey Archer. Wow! I had 10 speeds. I would never have to walk up a hill again. I suppose the gearing was what was typical for early 60s bikes: 52/42 up front, 14-26 in the back. Now riders can't begin to imagine such a limited range. I still ride a similar range on my 79 Panasonic and am okay with it. I guess I don't know what I'm missing with modern gearing. Even at 64 years old, I rarely walk a hill.
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Originally Posted by jetboy
calipers say seatpost is a 26.8 does that jive with other owners?
Been awhile since I measured it but the reason the post was not changed was due to its diameter. I have mostly 27.2 posts. My frame is a 60, BTW.

Just measured: it is 27.0 (26.99).
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Adding more measurements, 64cm frame from the late 60's. Seat post is a 27mm.

And posting pictures, just cause it's fun. Mine is much like Idmataya's. The lack of top and downtube stickers is as it came to me back in '73.

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