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Old 05-04-17, 04:00 PM
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Interesting saddle tie job

Saw this Brroks saddle and Campy seatpost auction on eBay just now:

VINTAGE CAMPAGNOLO SEAT POST 27 WITH VINTAGE BROOKS SADDLE / BIKE SEAT | eBay

I was a bit surprised to see how the sides of the saddle were "tied" together. It looks well done, but unusual. Isn't this usually accomplished with leather?

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Old 05-04-17, 05:28 PM
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Looks like someone used 4 lengths of solid copper wire for that. Good idea. NIce patina. Probably 14 AWG or 12 AWG wire. I always keep a bit of scrap wiring around from electrical jobs just for this sort of thing. The most recent was to make a length with a loop at each end to tie the two brake cables together as they pass on each side of the stem. Just a neater installation and better than those odd plastic things or a zip tie.
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Old 05-04-17, 05:42 PM
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Looks like he added a loop behind the post head, too. I almost appears as if he were trying to ensure his saddle's position relative to the post was set in stone

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Copper is heavy. But then so are Brooks saddles.

Kind of cool I guess but I don't really see how it's an improvement over the usual leather lace.
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Reminds me of hog rings
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I like the way he actually attached each ring to the rails. I bet this took some time and muscle.
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Yes, points for execution, not so much for material selection.
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Yes, points for execution, not so much for material selection.
Copper to match the rivets?
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"Interesting" is a euphemism....
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The really interesting thing that I see is that there are no tool marks. No hammer blow flat spots or spots where plier "teeth" dug in.

Whoever did this was good at what they were doing and was probably likely a metalworker or artist. (Or someone who understands metal hardnesses.) I think it's very well done.



And for the record, one of the cheaper ways to get wire for projects like these is to go buy the 3 conductor house wiring at any home improvement store. You get 3x the length, you just have to strip it and separate it.

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The wire is steel, isn't it? Does not look like copper.
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The wire is steel, isn't it? Does not look like copper.
Agree, and if copper (even 10awg) it would not hold its shape very long if any pressure was put on it. The piece behind the seat post looks like copper (12 or 14awg) and you can see it was twisted together.
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Wire coat hanger, perhaps, though I'm sure we'd all hope for something more specialized.
Either way I agree with most everyone else -- really good job here. I like it a lot.
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all very interesting and seems an adaptation of some existing technology, intended for "stitching up" something else, to this saddle. it sure does not ring any bells (not hog rings nor any "bundling system" I ever saw) but to get that final tight and consistent "link" is clearly deliberate. Wonder if we'll ever know...
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That looks like 6 or 8 gauge antenna grounding wire to me. Very flexible. Easy to bend.
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