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Old 06-08-17, 03:19 PM
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Anyone have info on Sarroni bikes?

Just curious about Saronni bikes, not much info on the interweb. Quality, tubing and maker if anyone knows. For some reason I made an offer on this and the seller accepted, I was pretty surprised. Not to crazy about the tubular wheels, but it looks to be in great condition.







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I think they are made by Colnago, but built at a price point. Tretubi? What size is the seat post?
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Some Saronni were manufactured by Colnago but not all. However, this appears to the Colango marketed version, based on the decals, lugs and fork crown. They also came in several grades. I have seen Columbus SL models with Campagnolo Nuovo Record and full pantographing. However, based on the Nuovo Gran Sport, this may be tretubi SL or even Aelle. Still, it may have been assembled from a frameset, so for a better indication, check the seat post diameter and whether the fork has a Columbus steerer tube (five helical ridges inside at the bottom and a Columbus logo stamped on the outside).

My understanding is that the brand was created in 1980, when he switched to the GIS team which was supplied by Colnago. He had become famous the prior year, winning the Giro d'Italia on a Bottecchia for SCIC. I do see what appears to be Portacatena holes on the rear dropout, which should place it circa 1980-1982.

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Thank you, great info. When I get it I'll check the fork and seatpost.
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Sitting here at working trying to find more info on Saronni and found this. Sounds like mine might be on the late edge of the earlier models. Wont know specifics until tomorrow when I get it. Pretty interesting though, I like trying to figure out details of slightly unknown bikes.



In 1982 Beppe Saronni won the Road Cyling world championships in England on A Colnago bike. To celebrate the win, and cash in on the renown of their new hero, Colnago decided to introduce a sub-brand. In 1983 they released the Sarroni bike to the world.

Early on, Saronnis were made with high end Columbus SL tubing and painted in bold colours. They were adorned with Campagnolo Nuovo Record groupsets. Later, the standards dropped. The Columbus SL tubesets were replaced with Tretubi ones; the paint finish was rarely perfect; and the stickers were often placed off-centre. In fact, most Saronnis needed repainting within a few years of leaving the factory. Few Saronnis still have the original stickers they started life with. Fewer still have the headtube sticker with Beppen Saronni's face smiling down on us mere mortal cyclists...

It was clear that the later models were being produced to a certain price, without the meticulous quality control of the Colnagos that were coming out of the same factory. However, in spite of this, (or perhaps even because of this) a good condition Saronni is indeed a collector's item.

The design of the sticker set changed a couple of times over its life. The Colnago logos gradually got smaller and smaller, until eventually, Colnago gave up on the sub-brand and stopped making them. About 4 years after Colango had introduced the brand, a new manufacturer - Tecnotrat - was making the frames. They were still badged Saronni, but the Colnago connection was gone. Tecnotrat evolved into De Bernardi frames, who briefly went out of business a year or two ago, but are now back making track frames a-plenty.
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Originally Posted by sloar View Post
...In 1982 Beppe Saronni won the Road Cyling world championships in England on A Colnago bike. To celebrate the win, and cash in on the renown of their new hero, Colnago decided to introduce a sub-brand. In 1983 they released the Sarroni bike to the world....
I can appreciate hwy the authour would have this view but the objective evidence indicates that Saronni branded bicycles were available several years earlier. On the Bulgier site is an undated Colnago catalogue containing a Saronni Giro d'Italia. If you look closely, you'll see that it has the Record front derailleur with four holes in the cage and a straight mounting band. according to all the Campagnolo sites, this derailleur was only manufactured in 1979. Certainly, it appears the supplement to catalog 17a, which was released in the autumn of 1978, for the 1979 model year but is not in the next catalog, released in the autumn of 1982, for the 1083 model year.

The presence of this derailleur suggests the undated Colnago catalog is for 1979 but I believe it is actually 1980. Why would Colnago release a 1979 Saronni model called the Giro d'Italia when Saronni was riding a Bottecchia and had yet to win the Giro? Further evidence that this is actually a 1980 catalogue is the presence of of the Colnago Mexico Oro model. On August 19, 1979, Colango had presented a gold plated bicycle to Poe John Paul II and the Mexico Oro was created to capitalize on the aftermath of that event.

Circa September 1979, everything would fallen into place. Saronni had won the Giro in June and the had probably signed the 1980 contract with the GIS team (supplied by Colnago) shortly after the World Championships. Colnago would be preparing the new models for inclusion in the 1980 catalogue and display at the autumn trade shows, where customers would be placing orders. 1979 derailleurs may have been used due to excess stock or not having rec'd the 1980s models yet.

To me, this all adds up to 1980 being the first model year for Saronni branded bicycles.

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He does mention that later on in his thread, about being built before the Giro. Hopefully I'll be able to piece a little more when I get the bike in my hands tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by sloar View Post
He does mention that later on in his thread, about being built before the Giro. Hopefully I'll be able to piece a little more when I get the bike in my hands tomorrow.

I searched and found were you obtained the quote. I see he estimates the catalogue to be from 1984-1985. His later statements about Colnago building Saronni models possibly as early as 1976 seems a bit of a stretch. Sarronni didn't turn pro until 1977 and the only amateur championships he had were a couple of junior national sprint titles. I wouldn't think that would be enough for Colnago to justify creating a Saronni brand. And if he had, why would he have let Saronni's SCIC team switch to Bottecchia for 1978 & 1979? Saronni did little in his first year as a pro, with Baronchelli being the team leader, Saronni started to emerge in 1978 with some Giro stage wins but he became a household name in 1979 after he won the Giro. 1980 still seems the best candidate for the introduction year and the earliest for which I've found objective evidence.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
I searched and found were you obtained the quote. I see he estimates the catalogue to be from 1984-1985. His later statements about Colnago building Saronni models possibly as early as 1976 seems a bit of a stretch. Sarronni didn't turn pro until 1977 and the only amateur championships he had were a couple of junior national sprint titles. I wouldn't think that would be enough for Colnago to justify creating a Saronni brand. And if he had, why would he have let Saronni's SCIC team switch to Bottecchia for 1978 & 1979? Saronni did little in his first year as a pro, with Baronchelli being the team leader, Saronni started to emerge in 1978 with some Giro stage wins but he became a household name in 1979 after he won the Giro. 1980 still seems the best candidate for the introduction year and the earliest for which I've found objective evidence.
Great info as always, thank you.
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"without the meticulous quality control of the Colnagos that were coming out of the same factory."

That line made me chuckle......
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