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juvela 06-21-17 05:51 PM

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Occurs to me that you were most fortunate that at intake she was in a rideable state. This way it was possible to do a test ride to see if the envisioned project was feasible with this frame. Just imagine someone getting a frame unsuited to their project by reason of ride/geometry and putting in all of the work and expense only to discover upon completion an unconsidered tragic flaw...

Since you did such a great job with the transfer creation it might be fun for you to make up a shop one as well. Perhaps something like "Artclone Cyclery, City Of Saint Francis."

What happened with the front mech cable path that you had to resort to a piece of free floating housing? Was there once a stop or guide there which got broken off? Is one present on the drive side for the stern mech's control cable?

Appears that both your example and the silver "close cousin" you found exhibit a no-slide pibb on the underside of the downtube. Is it of the bar or of the button variety?

Atom pedals must have been important to our forebears as well. What veteran of U.S. high school education cannot recall encountering the slogan "fifty 440 or fight!"?

ville - these are variously termed "demi", "half", "mini" and "town" as well. Here is a Poutrait-Morin catalogue page from A.D. MCMLXXIV:

artclone 06-21-17 09:32 PM

The downtube cablestop stop is a round dot type:
http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7vkhscgk.jpg

Did I do the FD cable housing wrong? There's a stops for the Campy wirewound housing bits front and rear. First bike I've had requiring a FD with a built-in stop:

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...psf00lcuxq.jpg

Rear has same braze-on type:

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...psc2ouhqsw.jpg

That is for sure an [MENTION=333224]juvela[/MENTION]-type business name, lol.

I really like the Atom pedals. Spin great, looknthe part. The Raleigh Super Tourer came with unspecified Atoms and these pop up cheap ($10) on eBay, so I went for it. Plus I was hurting after
buying the single most expensive part, the $60 Record FD with cable hanger, which was a super deal.

artclone 06-21-17 09:35 PM

That's a cool catalog page showing the Chistophes. Never seen some of those variations. That "mini" is tiny!

juvela 06-21-17 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by artclone (Post 19669313)
The downtube cablestop stop is a round dot type:
http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7vkhscgk.jpg

Did I do the FD cable housing wrong? There's a stops for the Campy wirewound housing bits front and rear. First bike I've had requiring a FD with a built-in stop:

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...psf00lcuxq.jpg

Rear has same braze-on type:

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...psc2ouhqsw.jpg

That is for sure an [MENTION=333224]juvela[/MENTION]-type business name, lol.

I really like the Atom pedals. Spin great, looknthe part. The Raleigh Super Tourer came with unspecified Atoms and these pop up cheap ($10) on eBay, so I went for it. Plus I was hurting after
buying the single most expensive part, the $60 Record FD with cable hanger, which was a super deal.

Thanks so much for all of these clarifications. My query regarding routing for front mech cable issued from this image where it appears to be a case of "floating" housing. I see now that the housing stop was obscured by the display stand. :o

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...psgu09cdbl.jpg

Some British quality frames, and it seems only British, do a housing stop mounted on the backside of the seat tube. This permits the assembler to mount either a bare cable front mech or one intended to be used with housing.

These new closeup images taken in strong light show well the metallic bits in the paint mentioned in an earlier post. The photos of the whole bike look to have been taken with an overcast sky, giving the finish the appearance of a uniform grey colour.

Atom pedal dustcap removal tool:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....1FhJIioBOL.jpg

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Absence of any serials might tend to support the idea of a contract build done, for example, for a retail chain or distributor.

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juvela 06-22-17 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by jeirvine (Post 19667555)
Great project. I love the seat lugs on that frame.

Here's my faux Super Tourer: a Super Course with GB All-Rounder bars:

http://www.thejennifers.com/Bike_Pic...Townie/SC1.jpg

Beautiful job and bike! :thumb:

Slightly surprised to see the Cyclone Mk. II front mech on there. Did you run out of "backwards" Maeda front mechs? ;)

No shortage of creativity in making up the chainset for Mr. SC. Appears to be Sugino Pro Dynamic arms with name ground away paired with 49D chainwheel set. Interesting that the Pro Dynamic chainwheel bolts were employed. What is the one-key release mechanism seen there? One from Yoshi or another maker? Earliest one I am familiar with was done by Giostra for the Super Zenith chainset of 1965.

http://www.thejennifers.com/Bike_Pic...Townie/SC3.jpg

http://www.blackbirdsf.org/magistron...cranks_sz2.jpg

http://www.blackbirdsf.org/magistron...cranks_sz4.jpg

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jeirvine 06-22-17 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by juvela (Post 19670060)
Beautiful job and bike! :thumb:

No shortage of creativity in making up the chainset for Mr. SC. Appears to be Sugino Pro Dynamic arms with name ground away paired with 49D chainwheel set. Interesting that the Pro Dynamic chainwheel bolts were employed. What is the one-key release mechanism seen there? One from Yoshi or another maker? Earliest one I am familiar with was done by Giostra for the Super Zenith chainset of 1965.

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The cranks are actually Electra Ticino arms with 49d rings. They made those arms in 50.4 bcd for a while, and were easier to find in 172.5 than TA or Stronglight (which are hens teeth in that size.) I think I got the arms at the Westminister swap for $15 a few years back.

juvela 06-22-17 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by jeirvine (Post 19670112)
The cranks are actually Electra Ticino arms with 49d rings. They made those arms in 50.4 bcd for a while, and were easier to find in 172.5 than TA or Stronglight (which are hens teeth in that size.) I think I got the arms at the Westminister swap for $15 a few years back.

Thanks very much for the response j. :)

Electra Ticino explains the faint ghost image of a shield shaped marking on the righthand arm.

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NickFavicchio 06-22-17 11:22 AM

Your kid crushed it name-wise atmo.


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