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Advice about Suntour Superbe BB & Crank

Old 06-22-17, 08:15 AM
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Advice about Suntour Superbe BB & Crank

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Im not very knowledgeable about bikes so bare with, just keen. Ive inherited my Mum's old raleigh superbe she had built in nottingham in 1980, but sadly it has had alot of its original parts replaced by **** bike shops, Im looking to slowly bit by bit get it back to original quality, and enjoy the process of learning about these bikes.

Thinking of buying this Bottom bracket, but its scary how to pair this with a crank for a novice... Any advice about dimensions would be great.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Retro-Suto...3D112376726703

- Suntour Superbe 68-W bottom bracket
- 114 mm long
- Square tapered type

Can I assume an english superbe frame it would fit this?
Does it matter its not the superbe 'pro'? and should I pair it with a 'not' pro superbe crankset?

Also any tips on this process in general would be good! It was hand built, so not exact superbe spec anyway so if there are any particular stars of the era I would be happy not to build a superbe pro perfect groupset...

Thanks!
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A Raleigh Superbe bike is not related to the Suntour Superbe line of bike components, although I can see how one could get confused. Also the Superbe uses a diffefent kind of crank, so the part isn't compatible.

Usually the Raleigh Superbe cranks just need adjustment, grease, or ball bearings replaced.

Post pictures and desribe what you want to fix/replace on this cool bike you inherited.
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There are lots of Raleigh fans here. Get some pics up and you will get all the advice you need and some you don't. And, welcome. The C&V crew seems like a good bunch of folks.
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As said the parts on the Raliegh Superbe's are not the same they mostly used Raliegh parts. The nice part of restoring one is they made the model for about 50 years with few changes, so you should be able to get good used or even new correct replacement parts in the UK fairly easy.
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1980 Raleigh Superbe, pretty damn cool.

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1980 catalog


https://threespeedhub.com/wp-content/...og-1980-US.pdf
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Originally Posted by artclone View Post
A Raleigh Superbe bike is not related to the Suntour Superbe line of bike components, although I can see how one could get confused. Also the Superbe uses a diffefent kind of crank, so the part isn't compatible.

Usually the Raleigh Superbe cranks just need adjustment, grease, or ball bearings replaced.

Post pictures and desribe what you want to fix/replace on this cool bike you inherited.
Raleigh had multiple Superbe models. Circa 1980 there a lightweight UK Superbe model built with SunTour Superbe components. Perhaps this is what the OP has.
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That's right! OP may indeed need a BB for a three-piece crank . . .


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1980 Raleigh Superbe, pretty damn cool.

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Thanks for the responses! Here is the bike... sadly past its former beauty but its been ridden regularly for nearly 40 years!

photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipOXUlPVbkkXLPWva61re62cE7HqUj4Tesc8AWFP

photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPvwNYsDZp6y3Hk_ylBlVhefAbJklj5OHX9gY45


Im planning to keep it inside this winter with it set up to work on, and part by part get it back to its full vintage spec, im searching and collecting parts now. Its abit of a stupid big job, seems how all thats left of the original atm is the frame... but hey seems fun and worth it, Im keen to learn.

I was using the spec in this catalogue as my current guide...

threespeedhub com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Raleigh-Catalog-1980-US.pdf (sorry about the dotless links im still below 10 posts!)

But it was built specifically for my mum so sadly I will never know the exact parts but Im going to follow this as much as I can. Which was the question about whether I should try and stick to specifically superbe 'pro' parts and be patient, or whether the superbe parts are still really good? And seeming how i think the original bike came with all suntour superbe pro parts, will this 68W thread BB fit?

www ebay co uk /itm/122522038287?ul_noapp=true

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Old 06-23-17, 02:16 AM
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I guess thinking about it, its more im planning to build a bike from scratch using the frame... Thats how I'm thinking of the task now. And I'm not precious about it being exactly the catalogue, although Im going to buy suntour superbe pro when I can.

So currently there is nothing I need to worry about fitting with that bottom bracket, I will be buying a new crackset when I find the right one.
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Is that your Raleigh Superbe Brian?! Beautiful bike!
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Im alittle confused too, the Raleigh Catalogue says in the description for the Superbe 'comes with top of the range Suntour Superbe Parts', so from that I had assumed there was a strong link... ?
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Sorry to everyone I was posting stupid links without the .'s
Now I have made it ten posts here are the proper links of my bike, and the BB im thinking of buying. So I will be changing the cranks to fit, any recommendations of a good pair for this bike would be much appreciated

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1Q...HqUj4Tesc8AWFP
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1Q...bJklj5OHX9gY45

Retro Sutour Superbe 68-W Bottom Bracket (Item 143) | eBay
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I can't access the bicycle pictures but that would be the correct spindle for a circa 1980 SunTour Superbe crankset to fit an English threaded shell. However, the spindle is trash. I can't believe anybody would try to sell that, at any price. Asking 70 pounds BIN is outrageous!
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I can't access the bicycle pictures but that would be the correct spindle for a circa 1980 SunTour Superbe crankset to fit an English threaded shell. However, the spindle is trash. I can't believe anybody would try to sell that, at any price. Asking 70 pounds BIN is outrageous!
Agreed. Sugino made SunTour's cranks, and a Sugino "Mighty" spindle ought to be identical, both in function and quality for a 1st generation Superbe crank (the later 130mm BCD Superbe crank used a symmetrical spindle):



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