N-which one?
 

Help with culling requested!

Guys and gals I've reached that point. I've sold off the bikes that are sort of low end, and the bikes that just don't fit, and I need to get ride of more.

So here's the list of bikes:

1984 Trek 610 Reynolds 531cs frame size 23.5" frame
Manganese butted main tubes
Chromo forks and triangle
Slackish geometry
Made for 27" wheels, has 700's on it currently
shimano 600 gruppo

Versus

1985 Miyata 710, size 60cm but fits well due to the 56cm top tube.
3ple butted main tubes, manga-light forks and triangle.
Suntour Cyclone gruppo, sportier geometry.

I like the sportier ride of the Miyata, but the steering stem is slammed and I only have 2" or so drop. The Trek is a tad more relaxed, which I'm not crazy about but I like the fender clearance better. They both make the commute to work a blast.

I seem to drop cogs when leaving the light on the trek. Could this be frame flex? How is Reynolds 531cs in the rigidity department? Could it be component alignment?

N-which one?
 

Help with culling requested!

Guys and gals I've reached that point. I've sold off the bikes that are sort of low end, and the bikes that just don't fit, and I need to get ride of more.

So here's the list of bikes:

1984 Trek 610 Reynolds 531cs frame size 23.5" frame
Manganese butted main tubes
Chromo forks and triangle
Slackish geometry
Made for 27" wheels, has 700's on it currently
shimano 600 gruppo

Versus

1985 Miyata 710, size 60cm but fits well due to the 56cm top tube.
3ple butted main tubes, manga-light forks and triangle.
Suntour Cyclone gruppo, sportier geometry.

I like the sportier ride of the Miyata, but the steering stem is slammed and I only have 2" or so drop. The Trek is a tad more relaxed, which I'm not crazy about but I like the fender clearance better. They both make the commute to work a blast.

I seem to drop cogs when leaving the light on the trek. Could this be frame flex? How is Reynolds 531cs in the rigidity department? Could it be component alignment?

I never cared for the Treks, so a vote for the Miyata.

Keep the Miyata, unless you need to run fenders.

Keep the one that fits best. The Trek will sell for more money just because it is a Trek.

id keep the trek as you seem to have a lot of miyata already...

What is this talk of "N minus [whatever]?"

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...91/973/e75.jpg

This sounds like a problem that N+1 would fix.

I found Trek 531cs in a large size to be soft for my 200# body. The ride was plush but uninspiring.
edit: my preference is decidedly sporty over touring.

Duplicate threads merged.

The 912 didn't fit right, so it's gone, and the 310 is as well because both the trek and the 710 did what it did better. The 710 is the last Miyata except for the Miyata 610 that's mid resto.

"Only" 2 inches of drop on a commuter...I can't relate but it sounds like you prefer the Miyata but would be happier on a smaller frame.

Here's an idea.

Sell both and get something you love.

I suspect either chain wear, cog wear, chain line, or a combination thereof.

You know what you like and what you don't like.

Sell the Trek. Heck, you might as well sell the Miyata 610 as long as you're at it- that's not going to be a cup of tea in your wheelhouse either.

Thanks guys, I needed some outside voices to clarify.

I love the Miyata 710, and would prefer one size down. That's why it's hard to let go of it. The Trek is great, for someone else. I'll pry my hands away from the Miyata and make room the "right" Miyata. One in a 57cm.

The Miyata 610 fits, and I'll build it, ride it, and see. It's hard to imagine a better touring bike than my Cannondale ST600. Plenty rigid and brazes galore.

I just have too many bikes. They're so cheap and finding good ones is such a treasure hunt, and I like fixing them up, sourcing parts, the whole process.
When I sold the Miyata 310, the guy said he needed a knockabout city bike, which will be served well by the 310, but it was in such NICE condition.

I guess selling will give me more room and finances to keep the treasure hunt going.
Maybe I'll find an '86 710 (with Chromo forks and triangle) in that 57cm size.

Thanks guys!

...how much would it anger the gods to use the Trek fork for a project, the Shimano 600 friction for another frame and sell off the main frame. I'd have no problem doing this if the bike were trashed, but it's perfectly serviceable to someone.

Trek's are really so - how should we say it - "ho hum" . Keep the Miyata. It's like this: Would you rather have a domestic US girlfriend or, an exciting Asian girlfriend?

I'm on vacation on Cape Cod, and found a 1986 Miyata 710 (with the Chro-Mo fork and triangle!) in a size 57! Same chili pepper red!

Domestic US girlfriend.

As a long time bachelor, married previously about 30 years ago, just like bikes, in my experience nationality doesn't matter. Additionally there are Asian ladies born in the USA, qualifying the as domestic US women.

Now that makes for a sweet vacation! Good for you!

You should take a trip out to Sandwich and check out the Dexter Grist Mill and the Thorton Burgess Society! I go out to a small town called Manomet every year for family, and every year we make sure to take a trip out to Sandwich to sightsee for fun. It's a quiet old town, picturesque with swans on the water. The mill is this great old thing, giant slabs of stone that run against each other and you can watch your corn being ground while you talk to the volunteers that run it. Old corny men that are more than happy to chat about the mill. Then the Thorton Burgess Society, unfortunately the house is no longer open to the public but the Nature Center and Jam Kitchen is still running. Beautiful bit of property, and great jams too. There's also the Hoxie House out there too, one of the oldest houses in Massachusetts (1675 or earlier). Amazingly enough people lived in there w/o running water or electricity up until the mid 20th century.

I highly recommend making a day of it if you can!

I despise Trek and love Miyata...bet you can guess which one I would say!

A bit off topic but it's my thread, why are Treks so polarizing? The ride of the Trek 610 is really nice, and you get it up to speed it seems to have a floating quality to it. If I can sort the chain issue out and it's not due to frame flex it's a really nice ride.

As for Sandwich I was only there for three days. My GF and I drove from Chicago back to the Cape to pick up a few odds and ends that didn't make it into the moving van in February. We're about to leave the finger lakes after checking out a waterfall. The van is packed to the gills but through the miracle of bike racks I'm bringing back that '86 Miyata 710 for myself and an '84 centurion Elite GT for her!

I've known people (on the internet) to not be able to see through the name Schwinn. To them, every Schwinn from Paramount on down was a 60 pound paper boy bike.

I didn't realize the same sort of thing applied to Trek as well.

Yeah, I get that Trek is "The Borg" of a corporate entity and assimilates anything that gets in it's way, but the 70s and 80s Trek was a bike company that only made good ****.