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Is this genuine Colnago?

Old 08-07-17, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoopdriver
I have a set of black KS pads on Campy SR calipers. Look right and work a lot better than the originals.
Ok, thanks! I will take on set of Kool Stop brake pads
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Old 08-07-17, 07:46 AM
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I believe @Cityen du Monde was referring to the size difference between 3ttt stem/handlebars and Cinelli stem/handlebars. They are not considered compatible. If it works once, it may not work a second time. Al does not like to stretch or deform much as a casing.

Nice bike, I have an '83 Supperissimo that I fully enjoy.
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Ok, thanks for explanation! I have one more question and that is where I can get some good shoes for riding this bike with this pedals? I don't know how it is called in english the type of pedals I have. Maybe clips? And today I can only see pedals and shoes with some patents. But I don't want to buy super expensive bike shoes with some locking patent when I need just some good shoes with hard sole. Can you help me? I found some vintage shoes like this:

https://www.steel-vintage.com/svb-ha...s-black-detail

But I can't check the size myself and this is some retro remake. Is there any chance to get some shoes cheaper and still suitable for my pedals?
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Originally Posted by wiston
The bike fits me well so I suppose there is no need to change the settings of the bars.

And your advice is not to change the positition of the bars and leave it as is? I am not sure if I understand it correctly.

Thank you!
The 1R stem was a wedge piece that has cuneiform ridges on the bar/wedge interface. These ridges indent ever so slightly into the bars when the wedge is tightened. When you loosen the wedge, the interface "lock" is interrupted and subsequent tightening never seems to work quite as well as the first time, perhaps because the ridges are not quite as "sharp" or perhaps because the "dents" in the bars no longer line up perfectly with the "ridges" of the wedge. I am convinced this is the main reason why the 1R stem has so many detractors and people claiming they don't clamp down well.
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Old 08-11-17, 03:50 PM
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Yes it's genuie. It's a 1976 Super with some subsequent modifications. (internal rear brake cable routing, braze-on front derailleur fixing).
I also have a such frame of this year. On mine the serial number (1354) is on the bottom of the BB shell and on the steerer tube too.
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Width of Cinelli vs 3TTT handlebars

Hi, I just bought new Cinelli Stem because on this bike there is Cinelli Stem with 3T handlebars. And there is screw through the stem and handlebars for fix this "wrong setup". Now I disassamble the handlebars and stem and I noticed that there are two rings pushed on the handlebars and on this rings are the brake levers fixed.

The problem is that this rings are just fine with the 3T handlebars and there is maybe 1mm space between the ring and bar. So it is very tight and now I would like to buy Cinelli handlebars and I am afraid if I can put this rings on it? Because I know that 3T and Cinelli has different width but is the whole bar wider or just the center of the handlebars where you fix handlebars to the Stem?

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'76 or '77 Colnago Super (Unfortunately, I do not see clearly in the pictures whether there are the two shallow triangles on back side of the fork crown or not).

The braze-on FD boss and aero rear brake cable routing are later applications. And as a result, the painting is not original.

Edit: Oups, now I see the same thing I wrote about half a year ago.

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Originally Posted by Old Fireleg
'76 or '77 Colnago Super (Unfortunately, I do not see clearly in the pictures whether there are the two shallow triangles on back side of the fork crown or not).

The braze-on FD boss and aero rear brake cable routing are later applications. And as a result, the painting is not original.

Edit: Oups, now I see the same thing I wrote about half a year ago.
Thanks for answer I did not want to start new thread so I added my question here. Now I just need to know whether 3T and Cinelli handlebars have the same width of the bar so I can put the brake levers on the Cinelli handlebars from 3T handlebars.
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The clamps for the levers should work fine on the Cinelli bars. The diameter of the curved part of the bar will be the same as this is standard for the most part (I’m sure there are exceptions but fairly uncommon) The straight portion where the stem clamps to it is where the differences in diameter come into play.
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Thank you a lot! I will buy some Cinelli handlebars and put it back together.

Btw photos of my bike are available still on this link: https://www.flickr.com/photos/135948...57677532667115

I attached photos of the stem that was originally on my bike. There was a little hole at the bottom of the stem where was screw added for better fix the incompatible Cinelli Stem and 3T handlebars.

Here is a link of the stem I bought and will be installed on the bike: https://www.cyklobazar.cz/inzerat/210852/cinelli-ax-120

I hope I will not ruin the whole bike with this new part. I wish the bike looks vintage still. Do you think it is fine for this bike? If yes can you recommend me some vintage Cinelli handlebars for this stem and the bike?

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Amen

Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde
Just a word of warning, the combo of 3TTT bars and Cinelli stem is not always the happiest of combinations, so be careful. I would recommend against loosening off the stem and repositioning the bars, if you were to do it you risk major difficulties and perhaps even breakage of the wedge of the stem.
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Slightly different situation but fair warning:

I mounted undersized bars in this Cinelli 1a stem in 1975 (we were young and dumb back then). Rode it that way for years.

A while back switched the bars and stem to another bike and realized the bars were only 39cm wide.

When I spread the clamp to remove the old bars - PING! The front of the stem hit a high C as it sailed across my work bench.

@SJX426 mentioned: "I believe @Cityen du Monde was referring to the size difference between 3ttt stem/handlebars and Cinelli stem/handlebars. They are not considered compatible. If it works once, it may not work a second time. Al does not like to stretch or deform much...."

Most 3TTTbars were 26mm in the center. Classic Cinelli stems fit Cinelli 26.4mm bars. At some point in the 80's ??? Cinelli started making 26mm bars and stems too.

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Old 12-16-17, 09:43 PM
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Great bike! Enjoy it just the way it is.
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