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12-10-21, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ollo_ollo
I think there is something magical about that 18 bikes number. Last year, when Mrs. ollo 1st saw my workshop she said "I can't believe you have 18 bikes!" (she mis-counted by a few) In the spirit of honesty, I quickly admitted there were a few more, but I don't count those that are in pieces. Since our marriage a year ago, I sold 2, but now have 2 zero bikes in Florida. Plus, I donated another 1 but also bought a few more. She still tells everyone that I have 18 bikes. Good enough for me. Don
Is it possible we've discovered a natural limit that most keep at or under? @Spaghetti Legs, how many you gots? And if there's an issue, ship one out to the Atelier, we can call it a Zero Bike.
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12-10-21, 11:01 AM
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I'm at 18 if I stop counting at 18.
12-10-21, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gugie
@Spaghetti Legs, how many you gots? And if there's an issue, ship one out to the Atelier, we can call it a Zero Bike.
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12-10-21, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by gugie
Amazing, @Andy_K has 18 hooks in his garage that are all used.
Is it possible we've discovered a natural limit that most keep at or under? @Spaghetti Legs, how many you gots? And if there's an issue, ship one out to the Atelier, we can call it a Zero Bike.
Is it possible we've discovered a natural limit that most keep at or under? @Spaghetti Legs, how many you gots? And if there's an issue, ship one out to the Atelier, we can call it a Zero Bike.
Originally Posted by Andy_K
If he wants to send out one of those Italian racing beauties, maybe the Cinelli, I'd volunteer to take it out once in a while to make sure it hasn't developed any mechanical flaws while hanging on the hook.
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12-10-21, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
I got Andy 56 cm bikes in PDX so don't need a zero bike there, right?
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12-10-21, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ollo_ollo
Plus, I donated another 1 but also bought a few more. She still tells everyone that I have 18 bikes. Good enough for me. Don
12-10-21, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
Andy, I am definitely most possibly almost to the point of considering selling a couple but the Cinelli aint on that short list. I got Andy 56 cm bikes in PDX so don't need a zero bike there, right?
The person who she told I had 15 bikes asked, "Why do you need so many bikes?" These non-bike people! They don't know nuttin'!
BTW, another pro-tip for people avoiding the S-1 limit... One of my "frames" is a fully built bike that I took the wheels off of for repair a few months ago. Now the wheels are stored in a pile with other spare wheels, and the "frame" is hanging from the ceiling between a couple of (mostly) bare frames. Any one of them could become a bike in time for a ride tomorrow if need be.
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12-10-21, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gugie
There's a theme tour - TdZeroBike - Buncha people fly in to a BF'er with 18 hooks, pick out one, off we go. @nlerner is very familiar with this concept.
12-10-21, 08:46 PM
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12-10-21, 08:48 PM
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Fascinating idea. There’s an analogue in the chemical reaction world.
Having a zero bike, or two, or three, may help keep you away from the dreaded bike activation limit, where once arguing starts it won’t stop until an overall lower number of bikes is retained. It sounds like an average bike activation limit is approximately 18. God forbid you add a catalyst like complaining about a spouse’s spending spree on shoes or similar, or you may lower the dreaded bike activation limit.
Arrhenius gave us the equation, don’t pretend he didn’t warn us.
Or another way to say this, if you’re at bike equilibrium, but you add too many bikes (could be one, could be a dozen), you might not find equilibrium again until the final number of bikes is less than the original. Zero bikes exist outside the reaction zone and therefore have no effect on the system.
Having a zero bike, or two, or three, may help keep you away from the dreaded bike activation limit, where once arguing starts it won’t stop until an overall lower number of bikes is retained. It sounds like an average bike activation limit is approximately 18. God forbid you add a catalyst like complaining about a spouse’s spending spree on shoes or similar, or you may lower the dreaded bike activation limit.
Arrhenius gave us the equation, don’t pretend he didn’t warn us.
Or another way to say this, if you’re at bike equilibrium, but you add too many bikes (could be one, could be a dozen), you might not find equilibrium again until the final number of bikes is less than the original. Zero bikes exist outside the reaction zone and therefore have no effect on the system.
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12-10-21, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AJI125
Fascinating idea. There’s an analogue in the chemical reaction world.
Having a zero bike, or two, or three, may help keep you away from the dreaded bike activation limit, where once arguing starts it won’t stop until an overall lower number of bikes is retained. It sounds like an average bike activation limit is approximately 18. God forbid you add a catalyst like complaining about a spouse’s spending spree on shoes or similar, or you may lower the dreaded bike activation limit.
Arrhenius gave us the equation, don’t pretend he didn’t warn us.
Or another way to say this, if you’re at bike equilibrium, but you add too many bikes (could be one, could be a dozen), you might not find equilibrium again until the final number of bikes is less than the original. Zero bikes exist outside the reaction zone and therefore have no effect on the system.
Having a zero bike, or two, or three, may help keep you away from the dreaded bike activation limit, where once arguing starts it won’t stop until an overall lower number of bikes is retained. It sounds like an average bike activation limit is approximately 18. God forbid you add a catalyst like complaining about a spouse’s spending spree on shoes or similar, or you may lower the dreaded bike activation limit.
Arrhenius gave us the equation, don’t pretend he didn’t warn us.
Or another way to say this, if you’re at bike equilibrium, but you add too many bikes (could be one, could be a dozen), you might not find equilibrium again until the final number of bikes is less than the original. Zero bikes exist outside the reaction zone and therefore have no effect on the system.
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Originally Posted by johnnyace
Don, was that your Follis with the Simplex bar-end shifters that I saw the other day at NW Hub? First time I have ever seen those in real life.
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