Austro Daimler
#26
Veteran, Pacifist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 13,328
Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?
Mentioned: 284 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3898 Post(s)
Liked 4,833 Times
in
2,229 Posts
#27
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I bought mine new in 78, flat black, gold pin stripes and a "AD" badge on the headtube. Drilled black Dura Ace chainring, Crane rear derailleur, 531 frame, gold anodized Fiamme tub wheelset, gold anodized Silca pump, suede Unicanitor saddle.
Later versions had "Puch" badge on the headtube and black chrome finish.
Later versions had "Puch" badge on the headtube and black chrome finish.
#28
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,737
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 147 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times
in
8 Posts
They very well could have came from the same factory, I just know the early bikes were all badged "AD".
The Vent Noir was a middle range model with two Campy equipped bikes above it if I remember correctly.
The bike shop gave me a catalog wth my receipt when I picked the bike up. There was no mention of Puch on any model in the catalog at that time. I don't remember seeing Puch mentioned in the catalog either, not even in the small print.
To be honest I just assumed they were bought out by Puch when the Puch badged bikes showed up in the 80's.
Probably more info than anyone but the most ardent AD fan wants to read...
My Austro-Daimler "Vent Noir II" Bicycle And Brief History of Steyr Daimler Puch
...but it's better than my pre Internet memory.
The Vent Noir was a middle range model with two Campy equipped bikes above it if I remember correctly.
The bike shop gave me a catalog wth my receipt when I picked the bike up. There was no mention of Puch on any model in the catalog at that time. I don't remember seeing Puch mentioned in the catalog either, not even in the small print.
To be honest I just assumed they were bought out by Puch when the Puch badged bikes showed up in the 80's.
Probably more info than anyone but the most ardent AD fan wants to read...
My Austro-Daimler "Vent Noir II" Bicycle And Brief History of Steyr Daimler Puch
...but it's better than my pre Internet memory.
Recognizably still a bicycle with a gas engine!
#29
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Puch, AD
In the American bike market, the difference between AD and Puch was simply one of branding and marketing focus. Both labels were made by the same factories. The AD line was marketed as an "upscale" line while the Puch label was marketed towards a broader market in lower price points. Both AD and Puch made some entry level models that were, quite frankly, crap . . . or at least compared to comparably priced Japanese bikes in the era. Both AD and Puch however, also made nice bikes and AD produced models at the very upper end of the market whereas Puch did not. The Vent Noir the OP originally asked about, was an AD model that evolved through a couple of iterations and over several years. The matte black version was the earliest as I recall and was equipped with Shimano Dura Ace components. The Smoked Chrome version (imagine chrome plating with a brownish tint) was a newer model, but I don't remember how it was equipped. Above the Vent Noir was the Superleight and then a Team version. The Superleight was a creme color and the Team version was a dark purple. The AD Interclub (I might have this model name wrong) was a burgundy model equipped with quite functional, but modest components. It was however, a full Reynolds 531 frame and the least expensive full 531 frame available in the US in the early 1980's.
I owned a bike shop in this era and sold both Puch and AD next to each other, intertwined to cover a range of price points. I also sold Fuji then and Fuji was the better line for entry level buyers.
I owned a bike shop in this era and sold both Puch and AD next to each other, intertwined to cover a range of price points. I also sold Fuji then and Fuji was the better line for entry level buyers.
#30
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 14,744
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 525 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3230 Post(s)
Liked 3,868 Times
in
1,439 Posts
__________________
My Bikes
My Bikes
#31
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
This is not the color of the Team bike I remember. This is a nice bike, but it looks far more like the entry level 531 frame model which I think was called an Inter 10. The upper level bike was a deep purple, not burgundy and had long point lugs.
#32
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 14,744
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 525 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3230 Post(s)
Liked 3,868 Times
in
1,439 Posts
There's one on the Classic Rendevouz AD page that looks like this claiming to be an Ultima, but that's probably based on the pics in the 76 catalogue.
__________________
My Bikes
My Bikes
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Ofie
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
0
10-04-17 03:32 PM