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steelisreal19 09-16-17 08:51 PM

Trek racing models
 
Hi all,

I found a 1985 Trek 520 with trutemper and shimano 600 at a garage sale recently, and it made me curious about the 80's and 90's treks. Can someone tell me what the hierarchy of racing models was? I'm going to be keeping an eye out for them now and want to know what to look for! Any info much appreciated!

Max

jpaschall 09-16-17 08:55 PM

www.vintage-trek.com

Very well maintained site with all the catalogues you could hope for.

The Golden Boy 09-17-17 08:01 PM

If you know a little about tubing, (Columbus and Reynolds tubing are desirable).

With very few exceptions- Trek's naming convention worked really well prior to 1986.

Very generally it was:
900 series= Columbus/Columbus
700 series= 531/531
600 series= 531/CrMo
500 series= CrMo/CrMo
400 series= CrMo or Manganese alloy/Hi-Ten
200 and 300 series= HiTen/HiTen

In 1986 the 400 series bikes came with a butted 531 frame with Trek (Tange) CrMo fork and stays. Essentially, that was what a 600 series bike had been the year before- and you'll notice there is no longer a 600 series bike in 1986.

The second number generally denotes the type of frame- Sport, Touring, Race. The early Treks were all touring geometry- in mid 78 they introduced the race frames- those were x3x. So a 730 would be a 531 framed race bike. Touring bikes had x1x. So a 510 would be a CrMo framed touring bike.

A little later 0 and 1 were used for sport bikes and 2 was used for touring bikes- the big exception was the 85/86 520- which was a sport/touring bike.

Somewhat later x60 and x70 denoted racing frames with the higher number meaning a more prestigious group set.

jpaschall 09-17-17 08:05 PM

The 170 was the highest end racing model at one point, was it not?

cb400bill 09-17-17 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by jpaschall (Post 19868534)
The 170 was the highest end racing model at one point, was it not?

Yep. It had Reynolds 753 steel.

oddjob2 09-18-17 07:41 AM

Another TruTemper Trek racer, model 360, 1988 only. Very compliant rider.

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ky8uw7g2m0j...01988.jpg?dl=0

oddjob2 09-18-17 08:21 AM

1986 Model 560 Pro Series
 
The handlebars, stem, levers, and brake cables were a quick all-in-one kit substitution for some crazy bullhorns.

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/eeoua072bdn...01986.jpg?dl=0

AngryFrankie 09-18-17 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by cb400bill (Post 19868547)
Yep. It had Reynolds 753 steel.

Those are quite rare. There is a frame only, I think about a 53cm?, kicking around the Atlanta Bicycle Barn.

KonAaron Snake 09-18-17 08:31 AM

My favorite is the pink 770 with Campy SR.

cb400bill 09-18-17 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 19869293)
My favorite is the pink 770 with Campy SR.

I like mine...

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3809/...dc0e3483_o.jpgDSC00002 by cb400bill, on Flickr

thinktubes 09-18-17 06:11 PM

^^^^^^^
Nice!

KonAaron Snake 09-18-17 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by cb400bill (Post 19870827)

Thats's the stuff!

bargainguy 09-18-17 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy (Post 19868526)
If you know a little about tubing, (Columbus and Reynolds tubing are desirable)...

IMHO, the Ishiwata Treks are the sleepers of the bunch. Ishiwata 022 is pretty much an equivalent of Columbus SP. Might not have the same prestige as the other two, but definitely no slouch either. I'm presently selling this 1981 Trek 510 w/022, and it is indeed a sweet ride.

RiddleOfSteel 09-18-17 10:17 PM

TruTemper Treks are very good bikes. Lovely ride and handling, great in sprinting/climbing out of the saddle. This '88 560 (below the 660) has a frameset that is lighter than my earlier second-only-to-the-170 Columbus SP-tubed 970. That is also a great riding bike. Man, I forget how good this looked with these components on it...

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...5e&oe=5A496806

1983 970:

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...2b&oe=5A458854

steelisreal19 09-25-17 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by The Golden Boy (Post 19868526)
If you know a little about tubing, (Columbus and Reynolds tubing are desirable).

With very few exceptions- Trek's naming convention worked really well prior to 1986.

Very generally it was:
900 series= Columbus/Columbus
700 series= 531/531
600 series= 531/CrMo
500 series= CrMo/CrMo
400 series= CrMo or Manganese alloy/Hi-Ten
200 and 300 series= HiTen/HiTen

In 1986 the 400 series bikes came with a butted 531 frame with Trek (Tange) CrMo fork and stays. Essentially, that was what a 600 series bike had been the year before- and you'll notice there is no longer a 600 series bike in 1986.

The second number generally denotes the type of frame- Sport, Touring, Race. The early Treks were all touring geometry- in mid 78 they introduced the race frames- those were x3x. So a 730 would be a 531 framed race bike. Touring bikes had x1x. So a 510 would be a CrMo framed touring bike.

A little later 0 and 1 were used for sport bikes and 2 was used for touring bikes- the big exception was the 85/86 520- which was a sport/touring bike.

Somewhat later x60 and x70 denoted racing frames with the higher number meaning a more prestigious group set.

Thanks, this is super helpful!

steelisreal19 09-26-17 07:36 PM

What would a 60cm Trek 770 in pink be worth? Just the frame and fork, decent condition but some chips and missing the Reynolds decals.

I love that bike...

cb400bill 09-26-17 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by steelisreal19 (Post 19889545)
What would a 60cm Trek 770 in pink be worth? Just the frame and fork, decent condition but some chips and missing the Reynolds decals.

I love that bike...

Wrong place to ask. For appraisals go here. Be sure to include some pics. Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - Bike Forums

OldsCOOL 09-26-17 07:58 PM

Here is an ‘86 760 Pro Series, full 531c frameset with Campy NR drivetrain and Modolo Equipe brakeset (very nice performers). I have since added a vintage Mavic tubular wheelset that will give a 20Lb weigh-in. I found the bike in excellent (gorgeous) like new condition.

https://vgy.me/bGm9Ly.jpeg

vtchuck 09-27-17 11:08 AM

660
 
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Trek 660 with True Temper Team tubing. A mishmash of components as I got it as a bare frame. Ride it more than all my other bikes combined.

Webbetron 03-21-20 06:19 PM

1979 Trek 510
 

Originally Posted by The Golden Boy (Post 19868526)
If you know a little about tubing, (Columbus and Reynolds tubing are desirable).

With very few exceptions- Trek's naming convention worked really well prior to 1986.

Very generally it was:
900 series= Columbus/Columbus
700 series= 531/531
600 series= 531/CrMo
500 series= CrMo/CrMo
400 series= CrMo or Manganese alloy/Hi-Ten
200 and 300 series= HiTen/HiTen

In 1986 the 400 series bikes came with a butted 531 frame with Trek (Tange) CrMo fork and stays. Essentially, that was what a 600 series bike had been the year before- and you'll notice there is no longer a 600 series bike in 1986.

The second number generally denotes the type of frame- Sport, Touring, Race. The early Treks were all touring geometry- in mid 78 they introduced the race frames- those were x3x. So a 730 would be a 531 framed race bike. Touring bikes had x1x. So a 510 would be a CrMo framed touring bike.

A little later 0 and 1 were used for sport bikes and 2 was used for touring bikes- the big exception was the 85/86 520- which was a sport/touring bike.

Somewhat later x60 and x70 denoted racing frames with the higher number meaning a more prestigious group set.


This is interesting. I have a 1979 Trek 510 and it in no way feels like a classic touring bike—the geometry is too tight for that.

The Golden Boy 03-21-20 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by Webbetron (Post 21377575)
This is interesting. I have a 1979 Trek 510 and it in no way feels like a classic touring bike—the geometry is too tight for that.

Remember what passed for a "touring" bike for most manufacturers was a little different until, say 1984 or so.

The difference between "racing" and "touring" geometry in 1979 pretty much amounts to 3 cm of chain stay length, 1 cm of fork rake and .5 cm of BB drop. The frame angles and tube lengths are the same.

https://vintage-trek.com/images/trek/Trek79.pdf


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