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Old 09-21-17, 10:48 AM
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Wide vintage pedals?

Rocking campy pedals with mini Christophe toe clips at the moment but realized on my last ride (also my longest) that my feet are really too wide for them. I'm a big platform pedal fan but want to refrain from going new if I can. Have old bear trap style MTB pedals on the Sprint cranks on my single speed but I don't think they'd go too well
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One challenge is that vintage people had (in general) narrower feet. I think there has also been a tendency for American feet to be wider than European feet on the whole.

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When I was racing in U.S. the '60s and '70s, some riders used Campy track pedals because they didn't have the raised lip on the outer side of the pedal.

Come to think of it, why is it that the Campy road pedals had the lip but the track pedals didn't?
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Old 09-21-17, 11:08 AM
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So I obviously have the road pedals as the little raised spike sits right under the balls of my feet
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You could try these...
s-l500.jpg
Although they're new, they look vintage.
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People with wide feet used track pedals.



A few eccentrics used the Lyotard Marcel Berthet platform pedals. Comfy. I had them on my touring bike. Unlike modern knock offs of this pedal, they could be used with slot cleat shoes if desired.

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Shoes make a big difference, too. What type of shoe are you wearing?

I have the Lyotard Berthet pedals shown above on one of my bikes. Yes they are comfortable when I use them with relatively narrow Avocet 30 touring shoes, but my size 11 feet feel like they are falling off the edges when I ride that bike with regular tennis shoes.

One of the widest and most comfortable pedals I've used is the Lyotard 460D pedals. Similar shape as the pedals posted above by Hudson308, which look promising, too. The Lyotard 460D pedals were pretty common on a lot of bikes in the 70s. Not the same quality as a Campagnolo pedal, but they work well enough and won't pinch the side of your foot.
VeloBase.com - Component: Lyotard 460D

P.s. @Higgins671, These will be gone soon:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lyotard-Marc...0AAOSwtjxZjQZo

Or, these modern copies of the Lyotard Marcel Berthet pedals are on sale from Velo-Orange:
https://store.velo-orange.com/index....rm-pedals.html

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Old 09-21-17, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Trakhak View Post
why is it that the Campy road pedals had the lip but the track pedals didn't?
Removing the quill gives the track pedal more clearance for use on a banked track.
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Old 09-21-17, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post

those look awesome ...
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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
Or, these modern copies of the Lyotard Marcel Berthet pedals are on sale from Velo-Orange:
https://store.velo-orange.com/index....rm-pedals.html
I recently switched to these MKS pedals with VO half clips and for city riding (in normal shoes where you have to start and stop a lot) they are excellent.
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SR SP-11. The Japanese version of the Lyotard pedals


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Old 09-21-17, 12:26 PM
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Hard to come by, but the Specialized Touring, SP-PL-T pedals are fantastic.



Similar in size and shape, and even harder to come by, are the SR SP-155 pedals.

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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
SR SP-11. The Japanese version of the Lyotard pedals


Size 13, I am a fan of these. I've also heard great things about the specialized pedals above. I also just got a pair of the SR's pictured above on a Miyata 210, but haven't put enough time in them to give an assessment.
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Originally Posted by Vintage_Cyclist View Post

Similar in size and shape, and even harder to come by, are the SR SP-155 pedals.

SP-155s are pretty common- much less expensive than the SP-11- almost as good. There's a nub on the top that one would be able to grind off. I don't understand why it's even there.
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Lyotard Berthets were always the standard go-to pedals for people with wide feet..... Phil Wood CHP pedals seem to be quite wide and supportive too.
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How wide are the Sylvan Touring pedals?
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I love vintage bikes but I won't do vintage pedals anymore on a bike I plan to ride. After years of hot spots, cold spots, numbness, etc while using a variety of shoes and a variety of pedals with clips and straps and click in cleats, I rejoiced when I switched to big honking platforms. I could pedal all day without a single foot related issue. I have, at least, stuck with silver platforms on my vintage bikes.
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I was going to mention the Lyotard 460A pedals. The steel version of the 460D (Duraluminum) pedals referenced above. I have some NOS 460A pedals if you want measurements.
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I have wide feet.... 12 4E in New Balance sneakers. With a metal cleated leather cycling shoe, I am comfortable with Campy Record (steel cage), Pro-Ace (steel cage), Superbe and Sylvan quill pedals. I position the toe clips as far to the outboard side as possible and if there is a slot for the toe-strap on the outside of the pedal, I bypass it and route the strap outside it.

Berthet didn't work for me
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
One challenge is that vintage people had (in general) narrower feet. I think there has also been a tendency for American feet to be wider than European feet on the whole.

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I don't see how that could be since the majority of americans are of european descent. It does seem to be that shoe and clothing sizes in Italy are smaller than in other parts of Europe or the US. It may be a more accurate statement to say that Italian feet are narrower than northern European and US feet.
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I'm now hunting for the SR SP11s and the Lyotard M23s ... lovely looking pedals
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I'm now hunting for the SR SP11s and the Lyotard M23s ... lovely looking pedals
I may have a pair of SP-11's. I'll check when I get home and PM you.
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Originally Posted by Dougbloch View Post
I recently switched to these MKS pedals with VO half clips and for city riding (in normal shoes where you have to start and stop a lot) they are excellent.
i'd like to see what they look like with full clips and straps ...
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If you can get over the look, bear traps are really wide and super grippy. Fortunately I can use them on my drop bar MTB without looking too weird. 11 1/2 4E
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Originally Posted by jpaschall View Post
I may have a pair of SP-11's. I'll check when I get home and PM you.
Much appreciated - I've currently got a set of SP12s, but I want to swap out the toeclips to bigger ones to accommodate my flippers and the toeclip mounts on the SP12 are horizontally aligned, not vertical ...
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