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Old 10-09-17, 05:41 PM
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1966ish Hercules

Just wanted to share my latest find. The hub is stamped "66". I was able to overhaul the hubs, headset, BB, and twist grip shifter. It rides quite well with no rust. Someone used steel wool at some point on all the chrome, but it still shows well. I only needed to buy a new indicator chain and cotter pins


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Old 10-09-17, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by restlessswind View Post
Just wanted to share my latest find. The hub is stamped "66". I was able to overhaul the hubs, headset, BB, and twist grip shifter. It rides quite well with no rust. Someone used steel wool at some point on all the chrome, but it still shows well. I only needed to buy a new indicator chain and cotter pins


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Old 10-09-17, 06:54 PM
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Very nice! Although that kind of saddle scares me.
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Old 10-09-17, 07:30 PM
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I did get a new saddle and seatpost. That seat is hard steel pan on springs, covered in decaying vinyl
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Old 10-09-17, 07:53 PM
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My first C&V bike was a black painted version of your Hercules. Not wanting to mess with it before I hit the road, I completed a brief but painful overnight camping trip with 60 mile ride on that original saddle. I still have nightmares about it from time to time.
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Old 10-09-17, 07:58 PM
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Gorgeous bike! Great find.

My 64 Sports has the same type of saddle and also a twist grip. How did you overhaul it? As i remember these are prone to wear allowing the gears to slip out. Mine has no shifter cable atm so I'm not sure how good it is...lol
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I have that bike and same color scheme. My chain guard is different though. I love that color. I got mine in 1967 as a christmas present.
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Nice pick up. I need to find me a nice 3 speed project like this one. I have a disassembled Peugeot uo8 (?) in my shed that I lost interest in. Perhaps the coming rainy season will give me the umph I need to get it put back together.

But I think less speeds would give me more umph.

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Old 10-10-17, 11:52 AM
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I had one almost identical to that. It had the Americanized chainguard, though. The twist shifter was disappointing. Others have complained about those, too, but if you don't like it, you can use a regular trigger shifter.

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Originally Posted by Scipunk View Post
Gorgeous bike! Great find.

My 64 Sports has the same type of saddle and also a twist grip. How did you overhaul it? As i remember these are prone to wear allowing the gears to slip out. Mine has no shifter cable atm so I'm not sure how good it is...lol
There is a circular spring/clip to separate the twist from the housing. Inside is a spring loading a ball bearing for indexing. I just cleaned out the inside with kerosene on a rag and and greased it up with bearing grease.
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I have that bike and same color scheme. My chain guard is different though. I love that color. I got mine in 1967 as a christmas present.
Were these Hercules models sold in bike shops or Dept stores? (ie. Woolworth or Montgomery Ward?) I found a Royce Union out there with the exact same component set as this Hercules. I believe they were Dept. Store (Gemco or Zody's) brands? I gather this info from unreliable sources though.
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Originally Posted by restlessswind View Post
There is a circular spring/clip to separate the twist from the housing. Inside is a spring loading a ball bearing for indexing. I just cleaned out the inside with kerosene on a rag and and greased it up with bearing grease.
right on, appreciate the tip. I wish my grips were anywhere near the white yours are...lol Mine look like they smoked for 50 years
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
I had one almost identical to that. It had the Americanized chainguard, though. The twist shifter was disappointing. Others have complained about those, too, but if you don't like it, you can use a regular trigger shifter.

Check out our long-running 3-speed thread.
What I have noticed with the shifter is that I more often than not can't shift under any load. This is my first 3 speed though Also the grips are very small and not so ergonomic.
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The hub doesn't shift under load, with any shifter. That's in the design. You can wear the hub out if you shift under load, so pedal very lightly, or coast, while shifting.
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Originally Posted by Scipunk View Post
right on, appreciate the tip. I wish my grips were anywhere near the white yours are...lol Mine look like they smoked for 50 years
I may very well ditch the twist grips for a standard shifter. I will put the seat and grips in a box. It's a shame as I really like to keep vintage stuff as close to 100% original just for the "cool" factor.
Nothing is as cool as the "stick shift" levers that sit on the top tube. I used to want that so much when I was a kid.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
The hub doesn't shift under load, with any shifter. That's in the design. You can wear the hub out if you shift under load, so pedal very lightly, or coast, while shifting.
Wise as always noglider

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I may very well ditch the twist grips for a standard shifter. I will put the seat and grips in a box. It's a shame as I really like to keep vintage stuff as close to 100% original just for the "cool" factor.
Nothing is as cool as the "stick shift" levers that sit on the top tube. I used to want that so much when I was a kid.
I hear ya, and those stick shift ones are still on ebay from time to time!

Do you know if the grip can be removed from that shifter to put a new one on? I would think so?
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
The hub doesn't shift under load, with any shifter. That's in the design. You can wear the hub out if you shift under load, so pedal very lightly, or coast, while shifting.
Well then, it seems to work great then
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I hear ya, and those stick shift ones are still on ebay from time to time!

Do you know if the grip can be removed from that shifter to put a new one on? I would think so?
I think so, but I wouldn't know where to source a new grip. It's thicker than the left grip (like a motorcycle throttle grip)
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Originally Posted by restlessswind View Post
I think so, but I wouldn't know where to source a new grip. It's thicker than the left grip (like a motorcycle throttle grip)
Valid point, i see the full kit show up from time to time also. Gotta be a way to do it.

BTW this is the 64, she's rough but coming along:
1964 Raleigh Sports 3 speed by David Ashe, on Flickr

Here's the progress thread up till now:
Confused 196? Ralegh Sports 3 speed
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Originally Posted by restlessswind View Post
Were these Hercules models sold in bike shops or Dept stores? (ie. Woolworth or Montgomery Ward?) I found a Royce Union out there with the exact same component set as this Hercules. I believe they were Dept. Store (Gemco or Zody's) brands? I gather this info from unreliable sources though.
Mine came from the North Pole.

Actually, my parents used trading stamps and got it from a catalog. I think they were Top Value stamps.



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