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Will my Trek OCLV ever qualify as vintage?

Old 06-08-05, 08:53 PM
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Will my Trek OCLV ever qualify as vintage?

I bought my first Trek OCLV in 1993, broke the frame a year later in crash with a car and have had the 1994 frame with full Dura Ace 8 speed ever since. I loved it then and love it still today.

Do you think this bike will ever be considered classic or vintage?

Here's something rather cool about the bike that some of you may not be aware of. Yeah, it's a "racer" Lance rode it etc... but it also has a set of eyelets drilled into the rear dropout so you can attach a rack!
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Originally Posted by Moonshot
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Here's something rather cool about the bike that some of you may not be aware of. Yeah, it's a "racer" Lance rode it etc... but it also has a set of eyelets drilled into the rear dropout so you can attach a rack!
There was a time when all racers had eyelets for fenders, I don't think they
ever carried racks per say.

No idea if your OCLV will be considered "classic", however it will be
vintage! (and the way things seem to be going anything over 4 or 5 years
old is "vintage" check out e-bay!).

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Old 06-09-05, 07:45 AM
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As the bike that carried Lance and Co. to those victories in that French bike race, I'd say that the OCLV Trek is already a modern classic. The name is synonymous with the legacy and even the general public associates "Trek" with "Armstrong".

I still don't particularly care for 'em though...
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It'll be vintage as long as you never crack the frame. If that happens, it'll just be a pile of carbon fiber.

Of course, it's obvious that you really love this bike, so it'll probably be around for many years to come.
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I have a '93 5200. It's my main squeeze, if I have to ride in a group. I have hotrodded the crap outta it over the years, replaced the ultegra 8 with DA 9 last year, replaced the fork a while ago with a Reynolds CF fork...I don't think there's one original part on the bike. It rides nice and builds out way light, but it was made in a machine and doesn't carry the same mojo that a steel (or even aluminum) man-made bike does (uh, imho). yeah, that's what requirements folks would call an "intangible".
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In 20 years I'll buy your old OCLV, fix it up, and give it to my kid to learn how to ride on. Hows that for perspective?

Seriously though, it'll probably retain its charm as a classic. Any bike with a rich race history is going to hold some of that mystique. Whether or not it will begin to increase in value I couldn't say (but probably not). However, it'll probably hold its desirability.

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I am sorry to say a Trek it's still a Chevy. A Chevy will never make Ferrari satuts.
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Originally Posted by look171
I am sorry to say a Trek it's still a Chevy. A Chevy will never make Ferrari satuts.
Does that mean, in your opinion, that ALL Trek's are "Chevy's?"

Before Trek became synonomous with LA and machine built rides they made some beautiful, lugged steel rides. I'm sure some of those original handbuilt Trek's aren't "Chevy's."

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To some people a '57 Chevy (among others) will always be a classic. If you love the bike, that means more than anyone else's opinion.
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Originally Posted by look171
I am sorry to say a Trek it's still a Chevy. A Chevy will never make Ferrari satuts.
Hmmm... It appears that a lot of "Chevys" have been winning races this year. The Tour de Georgia and Giro d'Italia immediately come to mind.
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Originally Posted by look171
A Chevy will never make Ferrari satuts.
Well, that depends on the car guy you ask, and if you ask me, please give me a 67 427 over any Ferrari. Or even a 58 Fuelie. I'm not picky
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Well, that depends on the car guy you ask, and if you ask me, please give me a 67 427 over any Ferrari. Or even a 58 Fuelie. I'm not picky
Not to mention the new Corvette.

Of course, it's not a Ferrari, either. It's too reliable.

It'll outrun most Ferraris, though.
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And let's not forget that these days, a Ferrari is just an expensive Fiat.
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Originally Posted by mswantak
And let's not forget that these days, a Ferrari is just an expensive Fiat.
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wow. I actually think that Chevy is pretty descriptive, if only because they are the 800lb bicycle manufacturing gorilla in the US. The same description applies to Bianchi in Italy, (usta be) Raleigh in England, and (usta be) Peugeot in France. None of 'em hold a candle to Giant, of course. And I don't feel ashamed to own a few Treks (well, eleven, I think. I sold a few this spring...).

The serial number records indicate that batches of 970's and later batches of 170's were specially built for "the Team". Other threads of evidence seem to imply that at least one of these teams was the 7-11 team in the early '80s. That team was the nucleus for essentially all of the current American racing scene. I think that that heritage alone is enough to provide a cachet and mark of respectability that more exclusive boutique brands will never attain, as nice as they can be to ride.
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I don't mean to be disrespectful to Chevys or Trek. I just don't think that it will be a classic that's all. I too, would much rather own a Corvette then a Ferrari... I think. Can't affort the repair bill. When someone sees a Ferrari drive by in bit of anger, they always turn, look and let out oooohs and aaaahs. Just like a Gios Torino, or a Cinelli with Super Record on it. When I see em' I always say to myself, I remember those, that's a nice racing bike. I can feel myself corner hard on that thing. How many of you can honestly say that you have said that about a Trek build in the 80's, how often do you find them with Reynolds 531. I wonder if R. Twigg's bike the got 2nd in the 84 Olympic was actually a Trek and not a custom job from someone else.

All I am saying is that the made too many to make it a classic. Now a rebadged Soretta...that's a difference story.

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It's not how many were made, but how many survive into the future. Chevrolet built a mess of '55 - '57 Bel Airs, but they're still regarded as classics. Not of the same calibre as Bugatti Royales, or Duesenberg SJs, but still.
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If it survives, Carbon fibre is great stuff and a great conductor, lots of metal attached to it far apart on the galvanic scale, the marine industry is now coming to terms with this and isolating the carbon from dissimilar metals, over time the resin degrades around the fibres Far away from the metal attachments!

The advise, don't put it away wet, keep it clean, never crash. The other problem with carbon fibre is that one cannot evaluate an internal problem without pretty sophisticated testing. Ever go into a local bike store and ask the mechanic about any broken carbon forks or frames around? I've never failed to be shown one yet when I asked.

Remove the seatpost and other vital attachments on a routine basis to inspect condition.

I'll buy carbon, just don't buy USED carbon, a gravity storm on a bike is not fun.

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Originally Posted by look171
. . . How many of you can honestly say that you have said that about a Trek build in the 80's, how often do you find them with Reynolds 531. . .
. . . Now a rebadged Soretta...that's a difference story.

Jeff
Well I have all of the above mentioned bikes.
The Treks are an 83/4 770, an 85 670 both Reynolds 531 Frames
The Serotta is an early 90's all steel model Columbus SL tubing.

You would be surprized at how similiar these bikes ride.
I always thought that the treks were very underrated,
that these bikes could give the best italian a run for their money.
There is an inheritent stability to all of them. They all
carve a turn as if on rails.
Consider who was doing the brazing/building at Trek in
the early 80's alot of them were ex Masi california builders,
and alot of them went on to set up small framebuilding
shops.
Don't confuse the orginal Steel Treks with the
mass produced carbon fibre lance era models
they are a totally different animal.

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Lotek,

I am not saying that a Trek 531 will ride much different then say a Colnago or Masi of the same era. I hate to say say that it will probably won't have the same class status as a famous hand crafted Italian. A bike like a Peugeot I think falls in the catagory as the Trek. They are all great bikes. So was my old Medici. I know, I know, the best touring bike ever made, so the joke goes. Oh forgot my Land Shark that came apart. the original question was about the OCLV as a classic. I just used cars as an example.

By the way, due to all this talk about old bikes, I went out on my early 80's Casati (won my 1st race on it as a jr.) w/ "STUPER RECORD" this afternoon and gave it a good beating like I have when I was strong and skinny many years ago. I have to tell you, the feel of that old thing is great. Better then my Look, or my Alum/ carbon Torelli. I have been missing this great feel all these years?

So what's your favorite so far? You sound like you have a few toys.

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Jeff,

That's one of the things I appreciate about the old treks, very underated
and generally a good deal can be found. I know, less mojo cache status
whatever you want to call it, who cares? its all about the ride.
The comments about the OCLV are spot on in my book, I just don't
think they fit the older ones.
My personal favourite ride? Zieleman so far (and that's why its
my "holy grail" ) I'll let you know when the dutch contingent makes an
appearance (RiH, Reus and Zieleman).
The interesting one will be the Reus and Serotta, both early 90's, same tubing.
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