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Headbadge for 1979 Schwinn King Sting?

Old 11-20-17, 10:04 AM
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Headbadge for 1979 Schwinn King Sting?

I'm doing a restoration on a 1979 blue Schwinn King Sting, and cannot for the life of me find an image of one anywhere online. In any color. I believe they're quite rare, that being first year of production. In fact, the bike only first appears in 1981 Schwinn catalogs. I'm trying to figure out what color head badge was used. Most examples from 1980 I've seen in online photos were white, but one I saw was red. A friend who is knowledgeable about Schwinns claims that it would have had a gold head badge. Any information would be appreciated.
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not sure what year this is but the Headbadge does look gold or yellow.
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I found one on the googles. the badge does look gold or yellow. pix link didn't work. sorry
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The King Sting was only offered in '81-'82 however it was fillet brazed and the headtubes for those models were stamped up to 6 years in advance of them being brazed into frames. Because of that those bikes can only be properly dated via the date stamps on original components and most importantly the 4-digit stamp on the headbadge that indicates the day the bike was built. Please post pics of both the frame serial as well as the 4-digit number stamped in the original headbadge. If the original badge is missing then it may not be worth restoring since a major proof of provenance will be missing. In that case I'd probably part the bike out and/or seek a more complete example to restore.
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Not a big seller. Like the Murray Baja from the same era. Was more like a 10 speed BMX bike.
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Originally Posted by Metacortex View Post
The King Sting was only offered in '81-'82 however it was fillet brazed and the headtubes for those models were stamped up to 6 years in advance of them being brazed into frames. Because of that those bikes can only be properly dated via the date stamps on original components and most importantly the 4-digit stamp on the headbadge that indicates the day the bike was built. Please post pics of both the frame serial as well as the 4-digit number stamped in the original headbadge. If the original badge is missing then it may not be worth restoring since a major proof of provenance will be missing. In that case I'd probably part the bike out and/or seek a more complete example to restore.
Serial number on frame is HQ800758. Prior owner put on a red 1983 head badge, which is clearly wrong. That’s remarkable that up to 6 years of prior year head tubes were used! A real frankenbike.
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The King Sting was only offered in '81-'82 however it was fillet brazed and the headtubes for those models were stamped up to 6 years in advance of them being brazed into frames. Because of that those bikes can only be properly dated via the date stamps on original components and most importantly the 4-digit stamp on the headbadge that indicates the day the bike was built. Please post pics of both the frame serial as well as the 4-digit number stamped in the original headbadge. If the original badge is missing then it may not be worth restoring since a major proof of provenance will be missing. In that case I'd probably part the bike out and/or seek a more complete example to restore.
If they only made King Stings in 1981 and 1982, can you please explain why blue is not an available color either year, as per catalogs? (Black with gold trim and silver with blue trim). Mine is solid blue. And other blue examples can be found online, described as being 1980. I think it was introduced in late 1979, after catalogs were printed, and was excluded from 1980 catalog because Schwinn treaded gingerly in BMX and ATB field. They were slow to get into new things (like lightweight road bikes), and had a lifetime guaranty on bikes and didn’t know if they’d stand up to the abuse of off roading.
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Originally Posted by Horochar View Post
If they only made King Stings in 1981 and 1982, can you please explain why blue is not an available color either year, as per catalogs? (Black with gold trim and silver with blue trim). Mine is solid blue. And other blue examples can be found online, described as being 1980. I think it was introduced in late 1979, after catalogs were printed, and was excluded from 1980 catalog because Schwinn treaded gingerly in BMX and ATB field. They were slow to get into new things (like lightweight road bikes), and had a lifetime guaranty on bikes and didn’t know if they’d stand up to the abuse of off roading.
Catalogs are rarely the source of all knowledge and truth. Proofs are sent out to printers months in advance, prior to any production. They are more like ideas or concepts, than representing actual production. I have owned several Schwinn that according to the catalogs, do not exist.
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I shouldn't reply to old threads, but:
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And then there's this:
https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/schwinn/61884

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And this one is on Ebay right now. The head badge might be (faded) gold with black lettering.
https://www.ebay.com/i/223000298023

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Were these bikes fillet brazed at every join? The other joins that I see look awful. BB, seat cluster, brake bridge... all look lumpy and unfinished.
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Were these bikes fillet brazed at every join? The other joins that I see look awful. BB, seat cluster, brake bridge... all look lumpy and unfinished.
As far as I know, yes. Schwinn was well behind the times when it came to producing mountain bikes. These were probably rushed into production.

Remember that Schwinn often made several years' worth of frames ahead of time, which accounts for the disparity of "year produced" serial numbers and equipment came on the final bike. With that sort of setup it's hard to adapt to new trends and changing requirements.
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