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Old 12-22-17, 08:55 PM   #26
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Just noticed that Madison general admission from 9-11am is $5, but admission after 11am is free!
That's because all the good stuff is gone by 10AM.
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Old 12-22-17, 09:52 PM   #27
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That's because all the good stuff is gone by 10AM.
Actually, all the good stuff is gone by 8am. Dealers get in at 6:30, and the best deals are gone long before it opens to general admission. That's why I always encourage folks to take a table, split the table fee with a friend, get there as soon as it opens for the dealers, and go on a buying spree.
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For some reason that irks the crap out of me.
Gone by 8am - listed on ebay for 3x the price by 9am
Why bother ?
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Old 12-22-17, 11:21 PM   #29
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For some reason that irks the crap out of me.
Gone by 8am - listed on ebay for 3x the price by 9am
Why bother ?
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Most of the sellers there may get a great deal by 7am, then turn it around as a good deal by 9am. Capitalism.

You want a great deal? Get a table for $65. Or, for a good deal, pay the $5.

But the great thing about Wisconsin is they have great cheese with their whine.
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Or, just as a crazy thought, spend $5 and have some fun hanging out with folks who like to ride bikes.

I know, how stupid of me.
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Anybody bringing an interesting bike to sell in the bike corral? I have an old Mercier that I repainted and decalled with an interesting parts "gruppo". That might be with me if I make the trip.
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For some reason that irks the crap out of me.
Gone by 8am - listed on ebay for 3x the price by 9am
Why bother ?
It's the same situation at any swap meet, whether it's sports memorabilia, antiques or dolls. Those who pay to get a table get the best deals, because the best deals are snapped up immediately, while the OK deals may linger.

So if you want the best deals, you pay for a table, get up early and make the drive. Often you get back the table fee just with the deals you get before the show opens to the public.
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End of show deals can be had too. Especially if you bundle things. Put together a few items from one vendor and offer a price. At the end of the show vendors dont want to be packing up stuff. A "big" sale at the end of the show and less items to pack up is appealing.
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I've thought about going to the swap, but I haven't been to one before and really wouldn't know a "deal" unless it was pointed out to me, lol. I'd probably be overwhelmed. I have a two "modern" road bikes I thought about entering in the corral to sell, but from what I've read it's hard to sell a complete bike unless it's real cheap or real unusual. It seems this cadre of buyers are sophisticated enough to know they can do better than FMV if they're patient enough or if they put the word out.
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End of show deals can be had too. Especially if you bundle things. Put together a few items from one vendor and offer a price. At the end of the show vendors dont want to be packing up stuff. A "big" sale at the end of the show and less items to pack up is appealing.
This is excellent advice.
I have sold at a few swaps and yes, I've gotten some good deals before the swap openend; but my best deals have been at the very end of the day when motivated sellers are willing to drop their delusions of riches and clear out a bunch of stuff for good prices.

Alas, Madison would be a very long drive for me!

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I won a Brooks saddle with $5 worth of raffle tickets in the Dreambikes booth one year, so that was a good deal late.
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I had a table for four straight years at our Blaine swap.

Also had a table when our swap was at its best at SPA school in St. Paul.

Those of us that were buyers coughed up for a table and brought cash. Lots of it.

Often, the very best deals were at the end when people were packing up.

Folks don't like to pack up, so we would lighten their load.

I'd imagine that most swaps are similar.
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This is excellent advice.
I have sold at a few swaps and yes, I've gotten some good deals before the swap openend; but my best deals have been at the very end of the day when motivated sellers are willing to drop their delusions of riches and clear out a bunch of stuff for good prices.

Alas, Madison would be a very long drive for me!

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End of show deals can be had too.
So true.

The less of my crap I have to carry to the car, the better.
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so do you come out for this event Brent?
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so do you come out for this event Brent?
I've only followed it vicariously through the postings of @RobbieTunes and others...
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It's the same situation at any swap meet, whether it's sports memorabilia, antiques or dolls. Those who pay to get a table get the best deals, because the best deals are snapped up immediately, while the OK deals may linger.

So if you want the best deals, you pay for a table, get up early and make the drive. Often you get back the table fee just with the deals you get before the show opens to the public.
Why would an average joe looking for a few parts for personal use on a couple bikes pay $65 for a table ? Kinda makes the deals not so much a deal anymore if you start out $65 in the red.
For some reason this knowledge caught me off guard. Certainly gives me a new perspective. It affects my world exactly zero, and it is America, but sort of takes the fun out of it knowing any deals are long gone before the doors open. It may be whining, but it could also be said that pre-sales kind of suck the spirit out of a swap meet and turn it into an in person ebay as well

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When we talk "great" deals, it is typically 1 or 2 complete bikes out of the hundreds there. It is a dozen or two parts out of the thousands there.

Are you ever gonna get FMB Paris Roubaix tubulars for $25 each? Not a chance if I have a table and you don't. But were you looking for those tires? The reality of a swap is if you are looking for a specific thing, you are likely not to find it. Then you come to my table and see FMB Paris Roubaix tubulars for $40 each, normally a $100 tire, and it ruins your day?

And you begrudge people trying to break even on a $65 table? For me, I probably won't and I don't care. But most people are like you, and if they don't break even, there won't be a swap next year. You think they are getting wealthy selling crap at a steep discount that most people in this country consider as a nuisance?
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And the 1 bike that was a great deal last year was a tandem. My friend bought it for the con-dente pedals.

Why would an average joe looking for a few parts for personal use on a couple bikes pay for that?
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I get to the swaps and find deals even though I have no table. I have a lot of fun just looking at all the cool stuff and talking to so many like minded people. Its like a party at the Playboy mansion, only the woman are bikes.
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Or, just as a crazy thought, spend $5 and have some fun hanging out with folks who like to ride bikes.
Hmm....RDU to ORD, bus to Mad Town.... I'll check. You may have to lend me $5
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I get to the swaps and find deals even though I have no table. I have a lot of fun just looking at all the cool stuff and talking to so many like minded people. Its like a party at the Playboy mansion, only the woman are bikes.
I like that anology. Who doesnt like fondling some bike parts.

$65 a table is steep. But for a once a year event maybe within reason. I frequent a toy train swap in Wheaton,IL. Billed as the largest monthly toy train show in the world, tables are a reasonable $30. But with the fading toy train collector market, even making your money back on your table is difficult. But I can set up a loop of track and run my trains all day. Thats fun! And talk to guys with infinite knowledge of toy trains. Its great in the winter months when you need a break from the snow and cold.
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May be steep, but it’s to help fellow cyclists and roadies fund their club, the Brazen Dropouts. Somehow the exhibition hall has to be funded, and being dropouts, ... well, there’s no major corporate waste, fraud, and abuse going on here!
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