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Old 12-18-17, 04:24 AM
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Once again the deep knowledge base of C&V shines like a light in the darkness of past cycling history! (Can you tell I'm ramping up for Christmas Eve services?)

So in this case, @Fairview, I think it all too appropriate to add just to the side or below "John's" a small and unobtrusive "1:5"

Since this is your Christmas Paramount, and it was made late in December, and knowing something about your beliefs from offline discussions, etc., etc., that's my unsolicited two cents and I'm sticking to it!

"And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." (KJV)
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post

So in this case, @Fairview, I think it all too appropriate to add just to the side or below "John's" a small and unobtrusive "1:5"
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Old 12-18-17, 06:38 AM
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I used to see that "John's" decal all over So. California.
Building is vacant. I think the last business in there was a custom Harley-Davidson chopper shop, and it only lasted a couple years. Nothing seems to stay in that building.
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
I used to see that "John's" decal all over So. California.
Building is vacant. I think the last business in there was a custom Harley-Davidson chopper shop, and it only lasted a couple years. Nothing seems to stay in that building.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/39...4d-118.0736698
Is that "John's", and is he holding a Varsity?
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Old 12-18-17, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
Once again the deep knowledge base of C&V shines like a light in the darkness of past cycling history! (Can you tell I'm ramping up for Christmas Eve services?)

So in this case, @Fairview, I think it all too appropriate to add just to the side or below "John's" a small and unobtrusive "1:5"

Since this is your Christmas Paramount, and it was made late in December, and knowing something about your beliefs from offline discussions, etc., etc., that's my unsolicited two cents and I'm sticking to it!

"And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." (KJV)
Hi Bob,

Now that is something. Only you could merge theology and bicycle decals!

Merry Christmas to you and your family.

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Old 12-18-17, 05:43 PM
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Unknown who it is, but does look like a Varsity. It's a pic I pulled off internet Google search for John's bike shop.
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Old 12-18-17, 06:03 PM
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So a couple things as a result of this thread:

A) I am amazed at the historical knowledge and research skills of this group, and
B) There is no way I’d consider removing those decals! What a surprise that those decals tie this bike to a shop that opened over a 100 years ago, and now is gone.

Thanks to all who have helped me with this.

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Originally Posted by Fairview View Post
So a couple things as a result of this thread:

A) I am amazed at the historical knowledge and research skills of this group, and
B) There is no way I’d consider removing those decals! What a surprise that those decals tie this bike to a shop that opened over a 100 years ago, and now is gone.
Hear! Hear!
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Old 12-19-17, 04:31 PM
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I have an unused John's of Pasadena waterslide decal somewhere. They also sold Puch and Capo. I spent a lot of time there looking at the exotic bikes. My parents bought me a copper plated candy red Puch Bergmeister there in about 1960. It was my first taste of freedom.
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Jones bike shop in Long Beach also used that similar logo.

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Originally Posted by Fairview View Post
So a couple things as a result of this thread:

A) I am amazed at the historical knowledge and research skills of this group, and
B) There is no way I’d consider removing those decals! What a surprise that those decals tie this bike to a shop that opened over a 100 years ago, and now is gone.

Thanks to all who have helped me with this.

Jeff
Awesome to hear. I am glad to see the stickers stay. And yes this is awesome group!

looking forward to seeing the build on this Paramount!
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Old 12-20-17, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by verktyg View Post




@repechage

Ad pictured below is from the October, 1965 edition of American Cyclist. It shows the John's logo and the little cyclist. Both are an important part of the frame's provenance.

Chas.
I'm surprised that they were still using the SY (Sycamore) telephone exchange name in 1965. I thought they were all numeric by then.
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Old 12-20-17, 07:28 AM
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I'm surprised that they were still using the SY (Sycamore) telephone exchange name in 1965. I thought they were all numeric by then.
There was a carpet cleaning company in Chicago who used their exchange number well into the 1970s

HUdson 2-3700 for any old homeslices...

EDIT: It seems that the formation of The Anti-Digital Dialing League may have slowed the transition in California.

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Old 12-20-17, 11:19 AM
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My grandmother's is still stuck in my mind- Parkview 14351
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There was a carpet cleaning company in Chicago who used their exchange number well into the 1970s

HUdson 2-3700 for any old homeslices...

EDIT: It seems that the formation of The Anti-Digital Dialing League may have slowed the transition in California.
Call 588-2300, EMPIRE, for those WGN viewers back when the News at 9 was on.

We were HEmlock8-7389 at home while growing up. Kids look at as if we are crazy when we reel that off, or GLendale(45), CHerry(24), etc.
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There was a carpet cleaning company in Chicago who used their exchange number well into the 1970s

HUdson 2-3700 for any old homeslices...
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Old 12-21-17, 07:54 AM
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Call 588-2300, EMPIRE, for those WGN viewers back when the News at 9 was on.

We were HEmlock8-7389 at home while growing up. Kids look at as if we are crazy when we reel that off, or GLendale(45), CHerry(24), etc.
Much of California was operated by GTE, General Telephone.... They bought big late with electromechanical switching equipment. It was funny for a time, you could order a push button phone which cost $1.10 extra per month and your call took longer to create a circuit as the equipment at the switching building ( massive two then three story building near my residence- they added to it) had to take the tone and create the pulse instructions.

I lived in the GRanite exchange. First job was in CRestview.

GTE had terrible service, to the point of being denied rate increases until they improved. Morphed into Verizon.... Which locally sold off to Frontier, another ongoing foible.
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I usually take off old bike shop stickers, unless they’re from Brooks Bike Shop. That was the shop my grandpa owned here in Rochester NY back in the 70’s. Sold Schwinn road bikes and later bmx. I’ll find old suburbans and continentals with the stickers. Don’t know if he ever sold a paramount. Finding one would be the holy grail.

OP - normally I’d say take them off, but because you’ve tracked down that cool old shop... it just makes a cool bike cooler.
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So I’m halfway there, taking the parts off my June 1972 24 inch chrome Paramount and getting ready to put them on the 25 inch blue one, December 1971. The 71 has the unusual decals which prompted this thread. I’ve never swapped all the bits from one bike to another, feels kind of sinful in a way.

It is noticeable, the difference in size in the frames in several dimensions. Hope my brake cables are long enough




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Yet another great thread.
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Can't wait to see the blue one built! I'm certain the chrome P will find a great new home and will wear beautiful clothes!
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Totally awesome Paramount.

FWIW: I'm also familiar with John's in Pasadena. A couple friends worked there from time to time, while I spent my bike shop career in a much smaller shop: B&H Cycle in South Pasadena.
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The blue Paramount is almost finished, spent a few hours in the shop yesterday using the chrome bike as a donor. I’m anxious to ride it to see how the bigger frame size feels.

I have posted a thread in the “what’s it worth” section to gauge what the chrome frame might fetch. I’d appreciate your input if you will.

When I get 100% finished with this blue one, I will post better photos. For some reason my camera is not capturing the blue color very well. It has more of a honey overtone to it in person.

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Almost looks "never ridden, fresh from the show-room!" Someday I'd like to take a picture of our two '71 P13s side by side. There's something about blue and red together!
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