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Old 11-20-18, 06:54 PM
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Since I've apparently missed every update since January...

The bike looks great! And wonderful choice with the 6400 stuff!

FWIW- I've used a Sharpie to fill in the big blatant white "Shimano" lettering on the big cog of the freewheel.
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@hazetguy, I had a Trek 660 that I bought new back in 1985. I loved that bike; rode my first century on it.

So many innovative touches, such as the cable running through the chainstay and the seatpost binder bolt built into the lugset.

I think that I still have the original Modolo brakes and “resin” body rear derailleur, plus assorted other original parts.

You have done a great job returning that bike to life. Congrats and thank you for sharing those pics.

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Thanks for the comments, much appreciated. I love riding it, and it's really my most favorite bike at this time, and a couple others have gone to other homes because of that.
Going back to the original purchase- I still have the polka-dotted handlebar wrap, and after I reroute the brake cable housings and get the stem height I am looking for, I'm going to put it back on, I like the way it looks and feels. Thanks Bill wrk101 for hooking me up with some yellow cable housing! That's going to be a mid-winter project.

I took it for a 51 mile ride on Thanksgiving day, by far my longest ride in, well, let's just say it's been a few decades. It was such a nice day, little traffic, just kept deciding to go a little bit further. I was wiped out at the end, and actually got some leg cramps about 1/2 mile from home, unfortunately that just happens to be at the bottom of the hill leading to my house! I had to stop a couple times to make it up, but I made it without any major pain or other issues.
On my ride it dawned on me that it's a Trek 600 series, and now has Shimano 600 parts on it. I never made that connection before.

There's a couple small things I'd like to change at some point, but for now I just like riding it.

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Well, warmer weather is on the way, and I've already been on a few rides this spring so far, which made me realize that I got around to doing -zero- of the winter projects I wanted to do to the Trek. So today I decided it was time and tore it apart, sorta.
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One thing I wanted to do was install a slightly longer stem, and Robbietunes hooked me up with a nice Cinelli XA in the length I was looking for. Awesome, love that big eyeball logo on the front! Thanks!
I had cut my front brake cable housing too short when I first put the bike together (see a previous post on that), and that was really bugging me, because I wanted the stem/handlebars about a cm higher. I got some NOS yellow cable housing from wrk101 Bill, and today was the day to install it. I was able to reuse the rear brake cable, but put a new front cable on. I also replaced the housing for the derailleur cable. Now all the housings match, are the correct length, and look nice and fresh. Thanks a lot Bill !!!





I really wanted to have a Shimano 6400 bottom bracket in the bike, but the only one I had when I assembled the bike was severely pitted, so I had installed a UN-55 instead. While it worked fine, it just bugged me a lot to not have a 6400 bottom bracket to match the rest of the components. I scored a couple bottom brackets over the past few months, and installed the nicest one, with NOS bearings and Campagnolo grease.






I also found some super clean, very low mileage, drillium Shimano chainrings, that someone had higlighted the inside flats with yellow paint. Perfect complement to the red/yellow 'theme' of the bike.



Earlier today, and the thing that really started me down the path of doing the major parts swap today, was that I wanted to get rid of the Sugino SP-KC milled/graduated seatpost, especially after seeing a recent thread about a bike being destroyed trying to remove one, and knowing that wet weather is ahead. I do not want water running into the seat tube. I've been searching for a 27.2 non aero Shimano 6400-A seatpost, even bought one from Germany, but it never arrived. Instead, I took a decent SR Laprade post I had in my stash, cleaned it, and painted the flutes (which will be above the seat lug) to fall in line with the color scheme.






The last few rides weren't necessarily comfortable on the original Concor saddle, so I was going to put my Cinelli Unicanitor on, but I need a longer bolt, as it's the style with the cast alloy rails. I put on a couch-like Sella Italia Anatomic on it for now.
I changed the freewheel to a Suntour version with the same 'grandpa gearing' as the new Shimano one I had installed last year. It sounds a lot quieter than the Shimano, which is nice, because the Shimano buzz was bothering me a little during rides.

So now it's time for some rides to do some fine tuning, adjustments, etc.
This is how it ended up at the end of today.



I've got a set of Araya Aero 4 Super Hard Anodized tubular rims, on Dura Ace hubs, which will be the next upgrade. Really looking forward to that!
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Superb build, one of my favorite Shimano group set
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
I've got a set of Araya Aero 4 Super Hard Anodized tubular rims, on Dura Ace hubs, which will be the next upgrade. Really looking forward to that!
Those wheels will be a magic carpet ride for sure, with those Corsa G's!!
Skin walls will make the bike look perfectly beautiful!!
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^^^ Agreed!

Gorgeous build - the red and yellow look fantastic!
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Thanks for the comments, I appreciate it.
I'm nearing the point of where I want it to be, which is a rather different place than I originally wanted to get to after I first bought it.
I'm planning on putting a lot of miles on it this summer (and beyond) because it is such a nice ride. A few more adjustments and I think I'll be there, but then again, is a project like this ever really finished?
I'm hoping to get the handlebar & stem length taken care of first, as I'd really like to get the yellow w/ black polka-dots tape back on. I felt just a little bit 'scrunched' with the last stem, so hopefully the longer one will eliminate that. The saddle is an easy thing to swap out, so it might be "saddle musical chairs" until I settle on the most comfy one.
I'm really excited about the rims/tires. The last time I rode tubulars was a long time ago, in the desert SW, where goatheads just ate them up. I'm hopeful that newer technology in tires, and the lack of those little nasty land-mines around here will make a revisited tubular experience a better one than the last.
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post

I've got a set of Araya Aero 4 Super Hard Anodized tubular rims, on Dura Ace hubs, which will be the next upgrade. Really looking forward to that!
This bike has turned out really sharp. Like the personalized details and paint fill.

Wheelset is the tops and like adding a turbocharger. The ADX4 rims are strong, easy to lace up, no special washers needed and better than the earlier gens, (of which the market seem to go nutz for and beyond my guess why).
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That bike and the attention to details are just over the top.

Nice work as always Jon!
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I've really wanted to get the tubulars glued, but I was either busy with work, kids, I got sick, and the weather's been yucky.
I dragged myself out of bed yesterday to get a few things done, and decided it was time to get the tubs glued.




Glued, and inflated, waiting for them to set up.

Swapped the freewheel from the old rear wheel today, and mounted the wheels to the bike. I'm not 100% sold on the tan walls, but perhaps they'll grow on me.
I figure I have less than an hour's worth of fine tuning to do before taking it out on its shakedown trip. Really anticipating that!
Now to kick this cold, and hope that the weather gets better soon.





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I'm not 100% sold on the tan walls, but perhaps they'll grow on me.
I wonder if you might like the color more if you swapped the bar tape to black. Your previous look had the bar tape as the coordinating bit of color, and now the tires do that. I love the look of black wheels with gumwalls on these old Treks, which is why I am bothering to advocate one way or another. Either way, beautiful bike!
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Thanks noobinsf. I'm gonna go back to the yellow w/ black polkadot tape that was on the bike when I got it.

Today's update:
After a long, long time searching, I finally got a non-aero Shimano 6400-A seatpost! This is a rather difficult seatpost to find. Thanks again to Miguel @malcala622 for the heads up on that.
I had purchased one from Germany in January, but it never arrived.





I got out on a short shakedown ride this morning, because I needed to accomplish several things:
-Adjust seatpost height and saddle front/back position.
-See how I like the longer stem I put on.
-Ride the Vittoria tubulars!
-Get off my butt and ride!!!

I got two compliments on the bike during the ride, which really surprised me. One was from a "flagger" in a construction zone: "Nice bike!", and another from an employee across the street entering a kayak/bike rental place: "That's a really nice bike!" I thanked them both. Again, surprising to get random call-outs like that, I'm definitely not used to that.

Although it was only a short ride, due to things like a lot of road construction that I didn't want to sit in both out and back on my "normal" route, and I have other things to do today, I feel like mission accomplished.
-Got the seatpost height and saddle adjustment pretty dialed in, but I need to do a longer ride to do any further fine tuning. The "new to bike" saddle is really comfortable.
-I love the longer stem, and I really love the Cinelli "eyeball" on the front. That is the style I longed for when I was a kid, so it takes me back... Thanks again @RobbieTunes for hooking me up with that!
-Wow, the Vittorias and new to me/trued rims and Dura Ace hubs. Wow. Immediately noticable improvement. Handling was much more crisp and sharp than before. I would not say scary or twitchy, just a lot more quick and accurate. Hubs spin so nicely. Tire noise also seemed to be less than the Continental clinchers I had on before. It also felt like there was a better tire and wheel reaction when "stomping" on the pedals. Braking also seemed a bit more quick. Really loving the ride of them, and can't wait to do longer rides.
So I think it'll now be time to do a "final" wrap of the handlebars with the yellow and black polka dotted wrap that was on the bike when I bought it. In my parts stash I found a set of red leather Christophe straps, so those will be installed soon as well.

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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post

I also found some super clean, very low mileage, drillium Shimano chainrings, that someone had higlighted the inside flats with yellow paint. Perfect complement to the red/yellow 'theme' of the bike.

I really dig those rings!
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Thanks TGB, I really like them too. Not sure how well one small bit of drillium looks in relation to everything else, but I do like the yellow accent.

I installed the red Christophe toe straps this evening. Even did the 'racer twist' in the pedal.
One step closer to being "done".

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Great bike! I had the identical bike, '85 and red/yellow. It rode great but never liked the Modolo and Mistral components. Methinks TREK was desperately trying to keep an affordable "all European" kitted bike in the stable. Like yours, it ended up with a Suntour RD, convincing me that the Japanese stuff had finally passed the Campy NR kit of the time. Bought mine new, and it was stolen from my garage after three years. I miss it, even though I now have a 760 which I adore. Ride it proudly and know that you are riding something better than nearly all your friends' fancy new bikes.
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I'm down to the "last" thing I want to do to the Trek, which is reinstall the bar tape that was on it when I bought it. It's vinyl type tape with very moderate cushioning in the center, yellow with black polka dots, and it has a texturized surface. I washed it to clean off old grime, and it looks pretty nice. There are two very small holes in it, but I think if I wrapped it carefully, the holes will not be visible or in crucial areas.
While I was cleaning the tape, I thought maybe I should look on eBay for new/nos tape that is the same. I found some Ambrosio tape with the same color and pattern, and bought the least expensive set (wow, some people want "big bucks" for this particular style!). The new tape does not have a textured surface, which I kinda knew from the ad pics, but does have a more cushioned center.
So now I have a (admittedly first world) dilemma: which tape to install. Use the "original" tape that was on it because I like the texture, maybe even over the yellow pseudo-cork tape that's on there now to give extra cushioning. Install the new tape and hope it's not too slippery. Decisions, decisions.



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I really like the old tape. The new would be too glossy for my taste, but I wonder if you could lightly buff it with a Scotchbrite pad to dull it slightly. Wrapping over the tape you have on there would make it pretty thick...some folks just do a bit of under-wrap at crucial points rather than the whole bar.
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Nice old frames...Trek was such a nice steel frame maker...now they are just so ugly. I wish they'd make 531 frames again. Like adjusted to inflation I'm pretty sure nobody could do it like Trek used to for a price that people would want.

I feel really bad for the dead robotic welders, they really didn't deserve to be put out of a job
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I really like the old tape. The new would be too glossy for my taste, but I wonder if you could lightly buff it with a Scotchbrite pad to dull it slightly. Wrapping over the tape you have on there would make it pretty thick...some folks just do a bit of under-wrap at crucial points rather than the whole bar.
Yeah, all of these are concerns I've been thinking about. It would definitely be thick with a double layer. I've contemplated selected area padding, or perhaps just running a layer of cloth tape underneath. And I agree with the high gloss of the new. I don't know if I'd like that 'shininess', and I think the older tape has a nicer, more subdued yellow color too.
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I spotted one yesterday at stage 3 of the Amgen ToC:

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^^^ Nice. Looks like a relatively stock '84.

I had a few rolls of cloth tape, so I decided to use those as "padding" for the yellow polka dot tape. While I would not use cloth tape for the Trek, I can certainly see the appeal of it, and know I will be using cloth tape for future bikes.

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After dinner I wrapped the handlebars with the black polka dotted yellow tape that was on the bike when I bought it. After getting everything wrapped well on one side, I was a bit meticulous in making sure that the other side had the same amount of wraps before and after the brake levers, so they are wrapped symmetrically, only off by less than 1/8" at the very end. Not bad for a rookie, I guess.
So, I guess that's the end product, or at least as close to a 'finished point' that I wanted to be at. There's always going to be something, but the want list is now very, very small: yellow or red wedge for the XA stem, perhaps a pair of matching water bottles), and none of those things will have any kind of ill effect on riding it. So now it's time to put some miles on it, do some very minor fine tuning, and enjoy.

From this:






To this:





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Very nice, Jon. I think your choice of the original tape was the right one. The chainring edges in yellow is a nice touch too. Maybe you'll bring this to the Bourbon Tour next year?
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