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Old 01-04-18, 11:43 AM   #1
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Advice on buying a Klein

I don't usually crowd source my decisions, but this is a bit different. I have a buddy who rides mostly mountain bikes, and includes his kids, so all they have are knobby tired bikes. I asked his daughter, 16 years old and a strong rider, if she would like a "racing bike" like most of mine, and the answer was an excited YES!

This Quantum is on craigslist right now, and the price is right. But starting someone used to MTB's on a sharp handling bike with DT shifters?(DT shifters are my preferred set up, so I can coach her on using them) Does it look like this will have a lot of toe overlap? I would put platforms on it for her, so it might not be that big a deal.

Also, does anyone think that this bike will have the press in BB? Estimates on what size the frame is?

At any rate, if its still listed this weekend I will try to look at it. At 75 bucks its a good price, so it may not be.



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Outstanding bargain. I love Kleins and this is a terrific bike at four times that price. Buy it.
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Old 01-04-18, 12:46 PM   #3
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I'd buy it as well, great deal.
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I ride my Klein regularly. Fast and handles nice. Too much air in the tires and you feel it, but she is young and coming off a MTB. Will probably feel like a caddy to her.

Looks tight but can't tell about overlap on those pics. I will assume she doesn't have extra large feet so probably ok. Bike looks late 80s early 90s per the hollowed out decals and style. Pre Trek. Good buy.
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I'd buy it too, but I'd want to know first that it doesn't have the old press-in BB. I don't want to mess with that if it's on its last legs.

My guess is it's about a 48cm frame, probably best for someone between 5'3 and 5'6", depending. But bring the tape measure to get the top tube length. As far as the downtube shifter position goes, if the young lady is a strong rider like you say, she'll probably get used to it quickly enough. At $75, it's not much of a risk.
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Old 01-04-18, 01:47 PM   #6
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That's a 1989 model I think and I don't know but that's about the time pressed-in BBs were around.
I don't think that would be a deal killer if the BB is still smooth and tight.
Nice group on there.

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Thanks for the feedback.

Its scary giving a friends child something that could injure them, thats the only reason I am concerned about overlap. But since all three of his kids have had one or more mountain biking caused casts at one time or another, and their mother still encourages it...

She saw me blowing the doors off of 17 year olds on fat tire bikes and thought that was cool.

Heres hoping I get it. I need a project.
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I've got Klein and love it I hope she does as well
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Yes, it would have the pressfit BB, definitely. 128mm rear dropout spacing.
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Thats an Instant buy. Amazing parts bike if it doesn't fit... The tricolor alone is worth more than $75..
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Yes, it would have the pressfit BB, definitely. 128mm rear dropout spacing.
+1 agree, My brother @tuna has a 1989 Quantum and it has the pressfit BB.
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Why is the prefix BB an issue?

My ‘92 Klein Performance still has its original, working great with well over 30,000 miles. My adult son uses that bike now.

The only gotcha is that you need to select a crankset that works with the installed spindle length, unless you’re willing to swap spindles. I’d heard that they are the same spindles as Phil BB.
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Yeah, I love the groupset and have several homes for it. But since it's great shifting stuff it would be good for a new rider. I have tons of stuff to play with already.

The bb would be an issue if it's not in good shape, have not heard back from the seller yet, so have not seen it. if it's good great, if not, well, I do love tricolor. I don't like to strip bikes down, particularly if they are all original and in good shape. I'll just have to see.

Hopefully will see it tomorrow.

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The pressed BB isn't an issue. It isn't that hard to change out, the bearing last a very long time an you can buy new ISO or JIS spindles or switch to external bearings with parts from Phil Wood. You can deal with the cartridge bearings with relatively basic tools.
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I think it's probably close to a 50cm C-C. I'm pretty sure I could ride it at 5'4. I imagine there will be at least a smidge of toe overlap, but that is easy to deal with. I have it on my 49cm road bike & after hitting the tire once or twice, you learn to keep your feet up/down when needed...only really an issue at low speeds/tight turns.
At that price, I would probably buy it regardless...
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I can't help with that particular bike but I can comment on toe overlap in general. It isn't a problem even on a frame with significant overlap. If you watch your feet while turning (not recommended!) you'll see that in any reasonable turn the wheel doesn't come anywhere near the feet. You just don't turn the bar that much. The only time you ever turn the bar that much is when you are turning really tight, like making a u-turn in the width of a residential street, and that means you are going very slowly. Out on the road, not a problem. Doesn't happen.
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Quantums don't handle that sharp....she's 16 which means her reflexes are sharper.

Maybe sharp compared to a mtn bike....
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Its looking sort of like a moot point now anyway. Four days without an answer from the seller... no contact info but email.

I have either a 54cm Miyata 1000 or a slightly smaller 85 bridgestone 500 that I can build up, so its not a huge deal. I ride 58 to 60, and it will be good to do something with one of the smaller frames I have laying around.

Thanks for all the input.
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"Four days without an answer from the seller... no contact info but email."

I was getting that so much it was giving me a complex! Why you place an ad but not respond to potential buyers is beyond me.
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"Four days without an answer from the seller... no contact info but email."

I was getting that so much it was giving me a complex! Why you place an ad but not respond to potential buyers is beyond me.
You've sold the bike and you're too lazy to take down the ad. Even I did this once.
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That's when you reply>>> "sold"
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The pressed BB isn't an issue. It isn't that hard to change out, the bearing last a very long time an you can buy new ISO or JIS spindles or switch to external bearings with parts from Phil Wood. You can deal with the cartridge bearings with relatively basic tools.
Please elaborate on "it isn't that hard to change out...."

Mine is in great shape, as the bike was nearly in unridden condition (or else ridden indoors, I can't tell). However, a swap to external BB and a compact DA crankset would please me to no end.

Then again, as eccentric as the "package" is, not sure my FD would work, but probably....

BTW, if some Klein fool is in need of the direct-bolt-on FD (double, Superbe Pro) or a Superbe Pro crankset for their Quantum, I have them. Why Klein spec'd them for the touring frame is beyond me, but I've got 'em.
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Please elaborate on "it isn't that hard to change out...."

Mine is in great shape, as the bike was nearly in unridden condition (or else ridden indoors, I can't tell). However, a swap to external BB and a compact DA crankset would please me to no end.

Then again, as eccentric as the "package" is, not sure my FD would work, but probably....

BTW, if some Klein fool is in need of the direct-bolt-on FD (double, Superbe Pro) or a Superbe Pro crankset for their Quantum, I have them. Why Klein spec'd them for the touring frame is beyond me, but I've got 'em.
You can knock out the old spindle and bearings with a soft mallet and a dowel. Put the frame in your lap and start by hammering on the spindle end - this will likely drive out the opposite bearing.

If you want external they just press in with a headset press.

Your FD should work fine - nothing about the "package" is eccentric - it uses standard chainline. But before you change anything, measure the shell outer width and call Phil Wood to find out about their external bearing system.
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I came here looking for information on a bike I'm supposed to pick up this weekend if it checks out. Imagine my surprise when it turns out it is the very bike I'm supposed to pick up. I emailed the owner multiple times and had given up on getting a response. They finally responded and said it was mine if I wanted it. Then trying to set up a time was another adventure. I haven't got it yet and not confident that I will.

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Its looking sort of like a moot point now anyway. Four days without an answer from the seller... no contact info but email.

I have either a 54cm Miyata 1000 or a slightly smaller 85 bridgestone 500 that I can build up, so its not a huge deal. I ride 58 to 60, and it will be good to do something with one of the smaller frames I have laying around.

Thanks for all the input.
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