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Old 01-10-18, 12:38 PM   #1
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Italian Eye Candy

I'm pretty bad about sharing personal things i'm going through , even when its not appropriate to do so ---- I'm never seeking validation per se' , mostly just venting

But the past few days has been filled with me going through attics, closets and cabinets and cleaning out my ex wife's personal belongings. She literally left with a few suitcases.

Friends had told me that it looked like she still lived here and cleaning stuff up would help bring me "closure" (its been over a year now )

Not sure about that ---- but i did manage to find a few cool things that might have interest to the group here that i thought id start scanning in and sharing as i get the time


First up is a Zar International catalog that my first real Italian bike was ordered from ---- I've shared pics of it before, but its a pearl white DeBErnardi Aelle (the only color NOT featured in this catalog) ---

- so here is the catalog in its entirety



















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Ah, vintage bike catalog therapy! It's worth a try. Thanks for sharing.

How/why did they get the head tube angles to look so slack?
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Great thanks for the selfless publishing! I think that from this period there is no catalog available on the net from this three manufacturers, so this really fills a gap.
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Thanks for sharing. Sorry about what you're going through, but I love the fact that someone can make a thread called "Italian Eye Candy" here and everyone instinctively knows that you're talking about sweet bikes.

My wife regularly rolls her eyes when I'm scrolling through Instagram and can't help but mutter "oh man that's hot" because it's always a picture of some sweet lug work or some polished silver vintage parts etc.
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Thanks for posting! I love old catalogs and have kind of turned into a collector of sorts. What year is that from? I'm going to guess '93-94. Also, how do you post these images? I have scanned some of mine to PDF but can't load them in that format and I will end up linking a jpg file from Flickr.

That Red Royale De Bernardi Thron may look familiar to one of our own. One like that passed briefly through my hands to him a year or so ago.
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A friend of mine repped for Zar back in the day. Nice to see this stuff again.

Good luck, and hang in there!
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Not sure about therapy, but for posterity you should title the thread(s) so we can search out your catalogs or other materials in the future.


Thank you for posting.
BITD, I used to see a rider on the most gorgeous DiBernadi. Only in passing.
Lots of tubesets offered, what fun!
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Nice, thanks for posting. As a Ciocc owner, enjoyed that section. KB
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Thanks for posting! I love old catalogs and have kind of turned into a collector of sorts. What year is that from? I'm going to guess '93-94. Also, how do you post these images? I have scanned some of mine to PDF but can't load them in that format and I will end up linking a jpg file from Flickr.

That Red Royale De Bernardi Thron may look familiar to one of our own. One like that passed briefly through my hands to him a year or so ago.

I just use one of these -- generic all-in-one from HP --- I have a Canon that looks the same , but they both link to a Microsoft scan app on the computer that lets me choose if I want the scanned images uploaded as JPEG's , PDF's, GIF's or other things

Then I just uploaded the JPEG's to Imgur and put them in the thread one sheet at a time, ---- It sounds tedious but it really only took 5 minutes -- I'm a former photobucket user and Imgur is so much smoother





The pic of the Ciocc Minimax states it is featuring the "New for 1995 Record Group" and a separate pic of a red DB states it is using a FIR Gemini groupset, which I've never seen, even to this day. So I'm guessing its a '95 catalog

but i ordered my pearl Aelle in early '96 so i am sure there is some blurring of the lines on exact dates with small manufacturers like these
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Lots of tubesets offered, what fun!
I know ! -- Kind of makes me wonder why i don't see more DeBErnardi's out in the wild with so many offerings, and especially at their price points. I see a few Ciocc's here and there , but hardly ever see a 'Gooch either
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Great post!
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Man ,

I just looked at this post with detached eyes, ---

the pic of the Black Royale SL DeBernardi , and the no nonsense black Guerciotti EL-OS with the early carbon deep section rims is just totally cool

In the pic of the black Gooch, you clearly see the wadded up blanket or bedsheet or whatever they are using as the backdrop and i think that is pretty cool -- a small distributorship putting together a handful of bikes for a photo shoot ---

Love the simplicity
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Thanks so much for this post, a great resource! and God Speed to you!
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As said in other replies, this is a fantastic resource for us. If we keep in mind that these catalog are not perfect in every detail, they do give us some great information. Thanks for posting your scans, some kinds of therapy aren't recognized, but they do help us to work through our issues.

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thanks for sharing. What year is that catalog?
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thanks for sharing. What year is that catalog?
Pretty sure its 1995
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Thanks for posting the catalogs, time well spent!


This is the first time I've seen any published info on the Ciocc MiniMAX Athena-equipped bike that I bought about four years back.
Supposedly one model of E. Merckx was the only other production bike to use this reduced-diameter version of the thin-walled Max tubing with bi-axial ovalized ends, which is I guess why my bike was built using fillets instead of lugs(?).


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Thank you for posting. I enjoyed looking through the pictures.

As for the end of the marriage, you will probably be happier in the long run. Life is short, no point in being unhappy.

Thanks and best luck to you.
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Thanks for posting! I love old catalogs and have kind of turned into a collector of sorts. What year is that from? I'm going to guess '93-94. Also, how do you post these images? I have scanned some of mine to PDF but can't load them in that format and I will end up linking a jpg file from Flickr.

That Red Royale De Bernardi Thron may look familiar to one of our own. One like that passed briefly through my hands to him a year or so ago.


Yes, Spaghetti Legs' red DeBernardi is alive and well here. It's a really well-behaved and spirited frame. Strong, responsive, and stable. Reasonably comfortable as well. The frame is fully chromed under the paint, so chips don't rust. The red paint is actually "candy" red over a white base coat. There are several novel tube and frame build features. I built it with 1980's Campy Record, Nuovo Record, and Super Record parts. Plus Campy Potenza dual-pivot brakes and new production Cinelli 1A stem and bars. Tubulars on Mavics complete the package. A fun bike.
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I'm drooling all over the keyboard, thanks for posting.
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Yeah, this stuff is gold. Thank you for posting it!
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Man, all of you guys are just enablers for my addiction. Especially DMC and he well knows why.......

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Thank you for posting! Good stuff. (Well . . . no accounting for taste, but Guerciotti's taste in bar tape is not my taste in bar tape.)
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