Legnano branded cranks. Are they Magistroni?
01-18-18, 10:56 PM
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Legnano branded cranks. Are they Magistroni?
These cranks are branded Legnano but the chain rings are marked as Magistroni. Were the cranks also made by Magistroni? There are no other markings on the cranks than the Legnano on the front. I believe these are from the early '60s.
I think I've seen similar cranks branded Frejus.
Legnano / Magisrtroni Cranks by BJ Stevens, on Flickr
Thanks.
Brad
I think I've seen similar cranks branded Frejus.
Legnano / Magisrtroni Cranks by BJ Stevens, on FlickrThanks.
Brad
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Someone like @juvela can be sure but I believe so if chainrings are. I have Olmo stamped but also stamped Magistroni. Look very much like those. I believe Magistroni also made the Olmo stamped seat collar and headset as well.
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Yes, certainly.
The distinctive, and proprietary AFAIK, Legnano-Magistroni chainset is the Y pattern example. Sometimes I will see a 1960's era Gran Premio without it and wonder why. Condorino will know the exact anni for its employment. Scroll down here to section marked "Magistroni."
https://condorino.com/legnano-part-suppliers/
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Yes, certainly.
The distinctive, and proprietary AFAIK, Legnano-Magistroni chainset is the Y pattern example. Sometimes I will see a 1960's era Gran Premio without it and wonder why. Condorino will know the exact anni for its employment. Scroll down here to section marked "Magistroni."
https://condorino.com/legnano-part-suppliers/
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A 48/36 is much more useful to me these days!
https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com...o-gran-premio/
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Grazie Mille Don Lon!
Was of course referring to OEM.
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Grazie Mille Don Lon!
Was of course referring to OEM.
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Agrati? (OEM, 1960 Capo Sieger -- mine on top, with non-OEM aluminum Simplex rings, another Sieger on below, with OEM steel rings.) juvela's spider cutouts seem to match mine.
The hallmark of a high-quality steel crank is that the spider and drive side arm are forged from a single piece of steel, not swaged together.
The hallmark of a high-quality steel crank is that the spider and drive side arm are forged from a single piece of steel, not swaged together.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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This, is a very reasonable question.
Alas, have no easy answer. Like you, have had a great many italian cottered steel chainsets pass through me workshops in forty-five + years.
There are some small differences between flutes, cutouts, proportions, contours, etc. but no easy answer. Feel like I "know 'em when I see 'em"...but could easily be mistaken as is so often proved here on the forum.
BTW - the Condorino site is an outstanding one for readers wishing to explore quality vintage italian cottered sets. no shortage of excellent examples, all with fine large format photography. a person can go at it two ways: either by looking at the individual bicycles or by going down the component manufacturer alphabetical list (see "legnano component manufacturers" in right hand margin).
https://www.condorino.com/
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@juvela - sorry for the minor hijack but are these also Magistroni? Chainrings have no manufacturer marks....
Your Torpado marked right hand crank arm appears to be a good match for the Way-Assauto model 1955/1956/1957 illustrated in this 1950 catalogue page from Emilio Bozzi.
The chainwheels of the model 1957 are shown riveted, however bolted chainwheels like yours were also offered.
Way-Assauto ceased the manufacture of cycle fittings in the early 1970's; firm still in operation today. Do not know if chainsets were offered right up to the end of bicycle products manufacture or not. Firm also did headsets, bottom brackets & pedals.
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