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Old 01-23-18, 01:45 PM
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Detracts value of vintage bike?

I have a Fuji Series V that is almost stock other than tires/tubes, pedals bars, seat post and saddle. Pretty much the comfort items. Does this detract from the value of the bike to a collector? Not that I am looking for a value on the bike, but want to know if I should pursue the correct parts so that when the time comes the parts can be sold with the bike.


Is this bike even worth considering as a collector's bike?
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Old 01-23-18, 01:54 PM
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If it does detract from the value, then you are dealing with a very specific buyer who wants that bike for some odd sentimental reason or something like that.
It’s a nice bike, but nothing so rare that it needs to be in original condition.

I prefer a bike to have updated tires as there is no appeal to riding 30+ year old tires and I would change the originals anyways. Same with a saddle, at least for me- saddles are so individual that I don’t think twice if a bike has a different saddle than original. I will most likely put what I like on there anyways, so it wont be original anymore.

A different seatpost is…well im curious why you have a different one. Need the length changed? Seatposts from 80s Japanese brands are most likely SR or something of similar quality. As long as you didn’t put a low end steel rod in there as a replacement, I wouldn’t think twice as a buyer.
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Old 01-23-18, 02:07 PM
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For bikes made in the mid 70's on, there are limited number of models that command much more value than simply being a nice bike to ride. Usually it's top-of-the-line, or nearly so, and 10 of 10 condition bikes that have NOS, or very desirable parts that command significant $. Even then, many bikes with very desirable components would get less as a whole than they would parted-out.

While it's quite cool to have a bike that is all original, doing so because it is expected to be produce a significant "originality premium" is almost certainly going to result in disappointment. Of course if you have a bike that has historical significance - say Francisco Moser's hour record bike, or Andy Hampsten's Giro bike, yes, originality is going to command a great premium. That is quite the exception though.
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I'd pay more for pretty much any bike if it was all original, everything else being equal. It might not be a lot more, depending on the bike, but it would be more.

(Unless I was buying it just for the components or the new components were really special, of course.)

For that reason, I keep the old parts when I upgrade my bikes so if I sell to someone like me they'll be happy.
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If the subject Fuji has low miles and absolutely perfect paint, maybe all OEM is nice, but it won't bring a huge value premium.

But if it is used and has signs of use, I would not consider a Fuji tourer as a wall hanger. Thus, as long as the bike has not changed substantially to look awkward as a mid 1980's touring bike, I wouldn't bother to hunt for missing OEM parts.
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Old 01-23-18, 05:17 PM
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As others have mentioned, top of the line US made or European made steel bikes can command a premium.

The Japanese bikes are nice, and some are very high quality, but a lot were dumped on the market, and they just don't hold the mystique of the European bikes.

The bike likely will be worth somewhere around $300, with or without the changes, assuming in good shape and 100% functional.

I'd build the bike so that it fits your needs. Don't worry about what someone thinks ads to or subtracts from the value. Also, you can spend a fortune tracking down the "right" vintage parts when your parts may even be better suited for your needs.
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Unless the bike came stock with a Brooks saddle and leather bar covering, I don't think changing 'comfort items' hurts the value of most bikes, especially a great bike like a Fuji Touring V. These bikes are intended to be ridden thousands of miles and changing things is just part of life.
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Being utilitarian, the bike will always carry a reasonable value. It was built to be ridden. A potential buyer would likely have something similar in mind and would want to outfit the bike their own way, regardless of how you have it set up.
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As mentioned, it's a touring bike. It's in a premium category already. Collector? Who cares. Somebody will want to buy it to ride it. Mechanical and cosmetic condition are more important.
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I’ve been on both sides of this- in fact, I was just thinking about that this morning while looking at some pix in the Vintage Trek gallery.

I’ve thought people were idiots for messing with (upgrading) some of these glorious machines- but since redoing my Trek 720- I appreciate a well done upgrade.

On one hand, a TS-V is a top of the line tourer, with some of the finest touring components of its day. The color scheme is second to none. That being said, I rarely read of the TS-V or Fuji Touring Series Bikes mentioned in the same breath as the Trek, Miyata, Centurion and even Schwinn tourers. Not that they aren’t in the same league or quality class- just not often mentioned or consciously associated with those bikes. I don’t know where the TS-V sat in the hierarchy of Fuji- I don’t know if it was the Flagship bike for Fuji like the 720 was for Trek. But I do know they sell for somewhat comparable money...

Now THAT being said... I don’t know if any bikes that have such an “original component” premium that would make sourcing original components financially feasible. In 99.9% of cases, you’ll make more money in a part-out than you will for selling a complete bike- regardless of what the bike is. As mentioned, tourers command a premium, and top level tourers command a higher premium- but whole bikes sell for less than the parts of the bike individually.

With all of that being said, I still have a distaste for poorly done renovations on bikes; random “vintage” components with no clear concept of the bike as a special machine; and using cheap, ****ty out of place modern components on an otherwise classy bike.
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