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Old 02-14-18, 06:38 AM
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Mondia Special

Just wanted to show some pictures of my european model Mondia Special I picked up at a flee market about a year ago.
This is the starting situation:

The cables and cable guides are clearly ready for some new hardware. The bike was also in definite need for a deep, DEEP clean.

Removing the cotton bartape revealed the horror beneath - 20 year old crusty glue and shellac residue. Let me tell you, trying to clean this mess has been a real pain. After a while I gave up, but I managed to remove most of the residue. Then, Fizik tape to the rescue:


The luckiest moment of the year: finding out that some old nailpolish I used to wear in my teens matched the Mondia orange exactly. After de-rusting I covered most spots up with the polish.


So here's a quick before and after all the cleaning, de-rusting and various touch-ups:

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Old 02-14-18, 06:40 AM
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And some more "after" photos:









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Amazing how your Mondia has been resurrected, good job on saving it. Now for some new shoes on it, any plans on which tires you are using?

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Nice restoration !
Do you have any of the specs ?
Year ?
Tubing ?
Hubs ?
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Congrats from another Mondia lover. And nice job on the clean-up.
Hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine.


PS - Love the helmet. I use one too.
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Old 02-14-18, 07:24 AM
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Very nice job, thank you for sharing the bike.

What is going on with the bottom bracket, is it some manner of Nadax, Briga?

Wonder if pillar correct size for frame. The NiKrom seat binder has been able to mash the seat lug binder ears together.

The handlebar stem is too high for safety; its split is exposed in image below.



@joesch - hubs are Sanshin Matsumoto, "Sunshine."

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Old 02-14-18, 07:40 AM
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Very nice job. If that bike is anything like the American Super Mondia Special, you will love the way it rides. Which nail polish did you use , I have a 1972 that looks to be the same color. Joe
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Cranks are out of registration by a good bit. The drive side wedgebolt is mounted so that tail leads in the pedalling rotation while the non drive side pin is fitted so that head leads in the pedalling rotation. They can be mounted either way as long as they are well seated but they must be mounted in the same way to achieve good crank arm opposition.

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Old 02-14-18, 08:47 AM
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Ditto to all of juvela's points some of which are areas of concern(!) like the too-high stem quill and a little less so the too-small seatpost.
But those aside: very nice job on it and quite a handsome bike, I'm also curious about what tubing used cause it generally appears a much higher-grade frame than the components on it.
Probably deserves some up-grades!
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As far as i know the high end Mondias used to be 531.
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Love the bike and the story about the nail polish.
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Nice job!
Lower that stem for safety and take a lot of pictures on your rides so you can post them on the "Where Did You Ride Today" thread in this forum. Those of us here in North America don't get to see many photos of bike rides in Switzerland. Where in Switzerland are you?
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Originally Posted by joesch View Post
Nice restoration !
Do you have any of the specs ?
Year ?
Tubing ?
Hubs ?
Originally Posted by Kovkov View Post
As far as i know the high end Mondias used to be 531.
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An indication could be made with a measurement of true pillar size by removing pillar and gently prising apart binder ears for a digital measurement.

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Originally Posted by joesch View Post
Nice restoration !
Do you have any of the specs ?
Year ?
Tubing ?
Hubs ?
Thanks!
Don't know the year, no indication on the rear derailleur. The oldest license plate (which was still required in Switzerland until 2011) that came mounted on the bike was from '68 ('68 to '89 were all mounted on the frame. After '89 they started using stickers); it's also the one I left on and you can see in the picture.

All I know about the frame is that it's steel, and I think I can read Campagnolo in the back - would have to take a better look another time to be sure.

Hubs are Sunshine 5345.

If I'm missing some info and you know how I can get it, I'm still a bit of a newbie in the vintage cycles area. Tips are appreciated
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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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Cranks are out of registration by a good bit. The drive side wedgebolt is mounted so that tail leads in the pedalling rotation while the non drive side pin is fitted so that head leads in the pedalling rotation. They can be mounted either way as long as they are well seated but they must be mounted in the same way to achieve good crank arm opposition.

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Yeah, whoops, my bad. Was probably very eager in the reassembly process. It's fixed now
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Originally Posted by Kabuki12 View Post
Very nice job. If that bike is anything like the American Super Mondia Special, you will love the way it rides. Which nail polish did you use , I have a 1972 that looks to be the same color. Joe
Well describing colours might be a bit of a challenge: it's a very dark orange, or in HEX I would say about #FF5A00.
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Originally Posted by obrentharris View Post
Nice job!
Lower that stem for safety and take a lot of pictures on your rides so you can post them on the "Where Did You Ride Today" thread in this forum. Those of us here in North America don't get to see many photos of bike rides in Switzerland. Where in Switzerland are you?
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I currently ride around Bienne and Solothurn I'll be sure to post some nice pictures once the weather gets better!
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The 5345 number on these standard quality Sunshine hubs has been discussed in another forum thread. Some readers thought it a model number but the experts weighed in and explained that is not the case. Cannot recall if its meaning was ever made clear...

Member rhm has made this post -

https://m.bikeforums.net/showpost.php...78&postcount=3

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Nice work, and from the Mondia homeland...
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Originally Posted by vlan_z View Post
Thanks!
Don't know the year, no indication on the rear derailleur. The oldest license plate (which was still required in Switzerland until 2011) that came mounted on the bike was from '68 ('68 to '89 were all mounted on the frame. After '89 they started using stickers); it's also the one I left on and you can see in the picture.
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The marking of a date on Huret products did not commence until ~1978.

The cycle's fittings, if taken to be contemporaneous with it, can offer some date clues.

Its Huret Challenger gear ensemble was announced in 1973 and became available in 1974. By 1977 the Challenger ensemble is still being offered.

This information suggests that cycle dates from between 1974 and 1977. Of course a cycle manufacturer can always have some fittings which have been replaced by newer models to use up in the assembly line.

One additional date clue is provided by the Sanshin Matsumoto quick release skewers. In the early 1970's the levers were straight and by the mid '70's they had become curved.

Below, a Huret launch announcement with illustration for the Challenger ensemble in 1973 followed by a 1977 catalogue page showing the Challenger rear mech is still being offered.

If cycle later than 1977 we would expect Huret fittings to be date marked.






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You have a very good eye for the details here. Bravo!

I, too, sport a Swiss bicycle registration on some rides:



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Stem height issue

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Cranks are out of registration by a good bit. The drive side wedgebolt is mounted so that tail leads in the pedalling rotation while the non drive side pin is fitted so that head leads in the pedalling rotation. They can be mounted either way as long as they are well seated but they must be mounted in the same way to achieve good crank arm opposition.

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Finally got my hands on the right tool to adjust the stem height. Stem is now slammed!


Adjusted stem height
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Thanks very much for the update!

Good to read.

Beautiful job with the bike, much enjoyed here. ; ^ ]

Now that the good weather is here hope you two are getting some quality time together.

Have been debating from the first post as to the cycle's pedals. Trying to decide between WECO and Eclair. Have finally settled on Eclair. Is that correct?

Tip - drive side front brake pad holder is in backwards.

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