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Old 11-21-08, 03:15 PM
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My newer Nishiki was NOS- the whole bike was. It is from about the time Nishiki stop sales in the U.S.- about 2001- but when I bought it this past August, it still had the nubbies on the tires and the store price tags. Not really vintage, but not the latest style either.



If you look you can still see the store price tags on the handlebars.
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Oh, and Gordo- I see you're in Culver City. We used to live on Sawtelle, just south of the Venice Blvd. exit off the 405.

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Originally Posted by Gordo Grande
Love that vintage saddle bag.
You can get them off ebay for less than $30 shipped. I got one for my old Raleigh.
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Originally Posted by Doohickie
Oh, and Gordo- I see you're in Culver City. We used to live on Sawtelle, just south of the Venice Blvd. exit off the 405.

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Oh Man! We're talking Tito's Tacos!!! How could you move away?

We're just south of Ballona Creek, (and the bike path), between Sawtelle and Inglewood.
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Originally Posted by Doohickie
My newer Nishiki was NOS- the whole bike was. It is from about the time Nishiki stop sales in the U.S.- about 2001- but when I bought it this past August, it still had the nubbies on the tires and the store price tags. Not really vintage, but not the latest style either.



If you look you can still see the store price tags on the handlebars.
Nice Nishiki. My wife's first ride was an 83 Nishiki International. She's commandeered my old Bianchi Limited, so I'm fixing it up. Thinking about changing it to fixie, which seems to be the trend now, but I'll probably just keep it stock.
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Originally Posted by bab2000
New Original Stock, to mean never sold retail across the counter, or utilized after purchased.

The reference by the poster is indicating the bike never seen it out of the store. NOS is often used in reference to parts or accessories obtain as result of a retailer liquidating or inventory buyout marketed by third party.
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Hi all: Introducing my self and showing off my '87 Schwinn Prelude I'd like to restore. My name is Brent. I bought this bike back in '87 and rode it constantly. No racing - just long distance for pleasure. I used it though college/grad school as a commuter. I still have the bike. It has since been set aside for a Specialized MTB, but now that I live close to work (3 mi) I'm thinking of doing a mild restore and putting it back to work as a commuter bike to get out of the car once or twice a week. It is a 1987 Schwinn Prelude. Mostly original, except for the bar tape, seat and seat post - and of course different tires/tubes. Some pics are below. The rest are on Picasa:

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That heattube angle is way too steep. Put a ruler on the top tube and see if it is bent - if so, it isn't particularly safe to ride anymore.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
That heattube angle is way too steep. Put a ruler on the top tube and see if it is bent - if so, it isn't particularly safe to ride anymore.
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I think Kurt means headtube not heattube.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
That heattube angle is way too steep. Put a ruler on the top tube and see if it is bent - if so, it isn't particularly safe to ride anymore.

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The downtube is slightly bowed also.
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Thanks for the notes. I don't want to put effort into this thing if it is not worth it. I need some help on what to check for distortion. First I took the picks with a wide angle 18mm DSLR lens (nikon) that may have introduce some distortion. However, I ran a ruler over the fame and here is what I found:

Top tube - straight as an arrow along the top of the top tube where the cable runs. Along the bottom side the tube gently slopes into the lugs at each end.

Down Tube - straigt as an arrow along the top but the whole tube bends gently down before entering the lug on the head tube - were talking 1/8" max between the shifters and the lug. It appears to be just part of the design since there is no disruption in the metal, paint, etc. and the tube does appear to taper from the bottom braket to the head tube. Does anyone know if this is normal?

Head Tube - straight as an arrow.

If the bend in the down tube suggested by USAZorro is pronounced between the bottle cage and the shifters, then that is just camera distortion.

Will probably take it to a bike shop to have it checked closely.

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This is a fully road worthy undamaged unrestored unretouched vintage old-school Italian lightweight road racing bike. Everything is original as purchased, with some minor exceptions as noted below. I am the original owner, having purchased the bike new-in-box in 1965. I briefly did some local road racing under the tutelage of a former racer from Holland. I probably put only several thousand miles on this bike before I got a sports hernia and stopped racing. I have cruised several thousand more on it since, and I am now going to take it off the road to preserve it as a collectable survivor bike. Comments or advice is certainly appreciated. Sorry if the pictures are not great, but I found it impossible to take good pictures of curved chromed surfaces without a professional studio.

Brand/Model: Frejus “Tour de France” Special Massed Start Racer, made in Turin, Italy. S/N 105221 (Frame is early 1960s based on CR serial number database, probably 1962, assembled and bought “new” in 1965.) Total bike racing weight about 23 LBS.
Frame: Seat tube size 56 CM c-t (21.5 inches c-c). Standover height 32 inches. Hub spacing 120 MM. Full chrome finish. (Numerous light pitting marks, not unsightly). Brazed on stops for rear brake cable. Decals are original, with translucent blood red background, but the background has degraded. Seat tube decal is TdF map “1950”. Plain spear-point lugs, scooped-out tops seat stays, no slot cutout in seat cluster, separate seat bolt collar. Head tube angle 72 degrees. Seat tube angle 74 degrees. Wheelbase 40.5 inches
Fork: Fully chromed steel tapered to round tubing – semi-sloping crown with slot cutouts. Hub spacing 100 MM.
Tubeset: Columbus seamless tapered special steel alloy (early chro-moly, double butted, see chart in Fred DeLong book, under Columbus SP.) The tubing decal states “COLUMBUS, TUBI RINFORZATI, ACCIAIO SPECIALE, MARCA DEPOSITATA, GARANTITI” (translated: Columbus, reinforced tubing, special steel (alloy), registered trademark, guaranteed.)
Dropouts: Rear dropouts forged Campagnolo, horizontal with adjustment screw and integral hanger, and fender eyelets. Engraved “Campagnolo”. Front fork ends are forged Campagnolo with fender eyelets, engraved “Campagnolo”.
Headset: Frejus branded (Magistroni?). Top race nut knurled and embossed “Frejus”. Bottom race nut knurled.
Bottom bracket shell: Size 68 MM. Stamped underneath “C X TdF 56 ”
Bottom bracket: Campagnolo square taper, or possibly Magistroni if they made cotterless cranks.
Crankset: Campagnolo (Record) Strada, alloy 6-3/4” cranks, 47/51 tooth 5-pin double chainwheel, BCD 151 MM, 88.8 MM c-c (old spec, pre-67 style), stamped on backs “170 Strada”, no date code, no raised pedal hole lip. Not original to bike. I bought new in 1966 and converted the original 3-pin chromed steel crank set (Magistroni). The Strada is shown as OEM on the “Professional” model in Frejus catalog.
Chain: ½” x 3/32”, nickel color. Outer plates stamped “Everest”.
Rear Derailleur: Campagnolo Gran Sport. “DA 14 A 26 DENTI” stamped on back plate (I assume means recommended range of 14 to 26 tooth cogs).
Front Derailleur: Campagnolo Gran Sport
Shifters: Campagnolo Gran Sport friction levers, slotted screw (non D-ring), downtube clamp on, and clamp on cable guides.
Pedals: Lyotard M23 “Marcel Berthet” platform pedals with raised cleat lip, made in France (not original on bike, but I bought new and put on in 1966). Balilla toe clips and leather toe straps, both original to bike, transferred to the Lyotards. I vaguely recall the original pedals as the Frejus catalog spec Campy sprint model, which is 1038/1 Pista con Denti (with teeth) in Campy catalog number 14, but set up as rat traps.
Saddle: Brooks Professional, date coded 1967, not original to bike. I remember original saddle was leather, either Brooks or Frejus brand, now missing. (In 1966, I had mounted a lighter molded black plastic saddle made by Fujita Saddle MfgCo,)
Seatpost: Straight plain chromed steel, size 26.4 CM. Non-integrated seat collar clamp, pinch bolt located on backside. Collar is chromed and embossed with a row of linked circles.
Handlebars: Road drops, dural, stamped “T.T.T. Touriste” on right hand haunch. Width 37.5 CM c-c. Original chrome metal end plugs. (Note: TTT was the former Ambrosia. Became TTT in 1964, which helps to verify the bike build year. TTT is now the 3TTT company.)
Stem: Forged dural road quill stem, pantographed “T.T.T.”
Brakeset: Balilla tipo Corsa 61 (script logo) center pull calipers, partially closed back levers, patented quick release on lever housing top. Original natural color gum hoods with logos rotted away – Weinmann NOS gum natural color hoods installed as temporary replacement. Cable and gray color housings are still the originals. Large block orange brake shoes still the originals.
Wheelset: 27-Inch brushed dural NISI tubular rims on Campagnolo medium flange, 36-hole (w/9 round hole cutouts each flange) quick release road hubs. Straight gauge spokes, 3 cross weave. Nickel plated brass nipples. Rims stamped “NISI Moncalieri Torino Italy”. One has remnants of a NISI decal. Radial grooved braking surfaces.
Freewheel: Everest 5-cog sprocket, 14/15/18/22/26 T. Stamped “G. CAIMI-CASTANO-ITALIA”, “EVEREST BREV”.
Tires: Hutchinson glue on tubulars (French), Presta valves, 85 psi, gumwall. Not original, but they are from 1966 or 67 when I put them on. Still in fair to good condition, but decals worn off. I probably blew out the original tires (Clements?).
Accessories: Added in 1965 “REG, Italy”, white plastic water bottle and steel or dural wire cage, strap mounts. That bottle was badly scratched and smudged, so in 2008, acquired a new white Cobra retro bottle (also made in Italy), which looks very similar. Note: REG was one of the names of The Rampinelli Company of Italy. Also, compare my cage to the retro cages on VeloOrange website. Presta valve adapter that I screwed onto back of pedal toe clip screw so it was always with me.
Other: There were two other decals on the upper seat tube that were added during the shipping, both faded away. One I recall said Park Ridge (NJ) Bicycles, a local bike store and the retailer of record. The other I recall referred to Tom Avenia, New York, the US east coast importer of the Frejus brand. (I have since removed these both – since there was no text on them),
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Beautiful bike. I noticed in your notes that the cranks were upgraded. Good call. Good luck with it.
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Beautiful Frejus. That's about the only kind of bicycle that I don't have that I would actually find a bike to get rid of to make room for. It would be really tough for me to not ride it if it were mine - though I'd have discipline to ride it only on leisurely cruises on perfect weather days.

On the RD, I think the 14 number refers to the maximum difference of teeth between the large and small chainrings. I concur with your interpretation of the 26 number.
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I picked up two old sears bikes yesterday while visiting my family. I haven't done much too them yet. I'll have pictures up tomorrow hopefully.
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This is my inherited 1976 Schwinn Superior. My great-aunt bought it new. I had been our of the US Army for about 4 or 5 years when she bought it. It was missing the original seat and crankset when I got it. I have recently acquired an original Nervar crankset and added a new Brooks Professional B17 saddle. I liked the looks of the NOS vintage Campanolo Record crankset I installed so I left it on the bicycle for the time being.

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cool trailer

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Thanks for the kind words. I don't think there is anything about this bike that would qualify as "cool" anymore! Hell, what do kids know anyway?

My bike and I went shopping today. I think I definitely qualify as a "Fred." (Do they still use that term anymore?)


Interesting trailer. How well does it tow? It looks like it could be pretty wobbly. (SP?)

Are those fishing pole holders?

VERY Cool bike.

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Why's this thread not a sticky anymore?
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Someone cleaned it off?
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I believe it is being dispensed with in favor of the new "Your Classic Ride and Classic Rides (what and where!)" thread.

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I believe it is being dispensed with in favor of the new "Your Classic Ride and Classic Rides (what and where!)" thread.

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Yes, see the new thread here: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=489147
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