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Old 09-16-07, 07:31 PM
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My road bike, about the nicest, highest quality thing I've ever owned.

I built this bike in 1985, when my spouse was barefoot and pregnant with our first child. I got the frame mail-order from Michael's Cyclery in Ames, IA -- then the headquarters of the Levi's-Raleigh USA cycling team. It has a Reynolds 531C tubeset, and was built in England, at the Worksop facility. It was modest in price ($225) compared to the 753 tubeset Team Pro ($595), Levi's-Raleigh Team ($400) or Professional ($350) models, but it was the same as the Competition or International Mk II frames available at the same shop. I think that the workmanship is very nice, and the lugs, while not ornate, have cutouts. It's not like the Italian bikes of the same period, with gaudy (IMHO) pantography and logos all over them, and the understated simplicity is one thing I really like about it. The "Raleigh" logotype on the downtube is not decal, but just vinyl stuck on. It's begun to fall off, and good riddance -- I'll replace with something nicer.

The fork has no expressed crown lugs -- the casting is sleeved into the fork tubes and finished flush, with just those nice sloping shoulders. And the seat stays terminate directly into the seatpost bolt sleeves; I've seen this detail on a Hetchins (not that this frame is in that class), but it's not the same as the more common Raleigh "fastback" stays, as found on the Professionals. The frame and fork weigh 2850 g, or 6-1/4 pounds; and the bike as you see it (minus bottle + contents) is about 10.2 kg, or 22-1/2 pounds.

The components I bought as a group -- Campagnolo Super Record except for the BB, which is Nuovo Record (steel). Original Mavic G40 clincher rims, with straight-gauge spokes, 36H both front and rear. Freewheel is Ultra 7 Suntour, Sedis chain. Until recently, I had a Selle Italia Turbo saddle, and Cinelli 66-44 bars with Cinelli 1A stem. But I'm getting older, and have just installed a Brooks B17, and changed the stem to a Nitto Technomic for greater rise, with Nitto Noodle bars, which I like a lot.

The brake hoods for the older non-aero levers are getting very expensive. Mine had begun to wear out, so I've replaced them with Modolo hoods, which are ergonomically shaped, and feel very nice in the hand.

I broke something on the bike, and have replaced the part (temporarily) with one that is Campy, but not Super Record. Can you find it?

Based on the seatpost and stem extension, you might think that the frame (57 cm, 22-1/2") is too small for me; perhaps it is, but I'm only 5'-10" tall, and though high-waisted, when I stand over the frame, I don't think I'd want it any closer. The seatpost is just about at its max, and it seems to be the right place, insofar as how comfortable I am pedaling.

Though I'm not a two-hundred-mile-a-week cyclist, far from it, I like to commute on the bike in decent weather. My ham-fisted mechanicry has left its share of scars on the frame mostly; but the bike is in good shape considering its age.

I know the photo is washed out -- just that time of a very bright day, on our ride in Central Park. The venue is the plaza overlooking Bethesda Terrace, one of the places in the park that I have had some professional involvement with. There are more (also washed out, for now) photos at https://www.flickr.com/photos/1317574...7602038790012/

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Old 09-16-07, 09:27 PM
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I explained that he could never pay me enough cash for the amount of work I had put into that bike and the only way to compensate me for it was to ride the hell out of it.
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Old 09-16-07, 10:55 PM
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here's my daily, 1981 schwinn le tour, built by panasonic. recently received full tune up, along with the conti ultra gatorskins, bike was completely original when i found it in my dads garage where it had been sitting untouched for 20 years! original paint job still feels like new












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My most recent project completion.
The frame is a late 80's fiorelli frame with columbus aelle tubing. The components consist of: tange headset, campy chorus BB and crankset, unknown rear campy 80's RD, record 10spd FD, campy (i believe) record brakes, shift levers, shimano hubs, mavic ma40 rims, nitto stem and bars. I think thats about it.



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Just picked up a 1983 le tour luxe





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Old 09-19-07, 12:30 PM
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I suppose I can post this in here now that I've cleaned it up some. An '83 (I think) Univega Specialissima I got a few weeks back. It needs paint quite badly, though it's not as evident in the photo.

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Old 09-19-07, 12:52 PM
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Nice looking bike Lamplight. What tubing is it made from? (trying develop the short list for the touring bike I'm soon to be looking for)
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Thanks! The sticker says Tange Champion. Not sure where that ranks in Tange's line.

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Originally Posted by Lamplight
Thanks! The sticker says Tange Champion. Not sure where that ranks in Tange's line.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._9915small.jpg
I have weight information on Prestige, 1, 2 and Infinity. Maybe someone else knows about Champion. What's your sense for the frame weight? Light? Heavy? In between?
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Originally Posted by USAZorro
I have weight information on Prestige, 1, 2 and Infinity. Maybe someone else knows about Champion. What's your sense for the frame weight? Light? Heavy? In between?
It's hard to say as I haven't had the bike completely apart at one time yet. With the rack but no bag the bike feels like it's probably 25 to 27 pounds. The other day I weighed it at my LBS with the bag full of my normal commuting stuff, and it weighed 37.5 pounds! I'm thinking about painting it so when I strip it down I'll weigh it and post the results. I will say that the wheels and tires (27 x 1.25)are quite heavy. It came with some very heavy duty innertubes that must weigh a pound each.
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79 DeRosa Professional SL



87 Vitus/Bador 979



84 Cambio Rino



82 Andre Bertin C70


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Beautiful examples, caterham. How about some close ups?

I think you'll find things more civilized here than over at roadbikereview. We are mostly a helpful bunch of old farts .

Welcome to C&V,

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Amazing collection of bikes, caterham! I love the Bertin especially.
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Hi John,

Thanks for the welcome.' just thought I'd expand my options. this board seemed like a cozy place to snuggle in.

Lampie,
Compliment appreciated. actually, the bertin belongs to my wife... I'm just the wrench. my wife and i met in a bike shop and our first "date" was a 36 mile ride, she on the Bertin and me on my DeRosa.
Her bike is interesting in that Andre Bertin was also the french distributor for Shimano and thus her C70 is equipped with french threaded Dura Ace EX group,and features the quirky Dyna Drive integrated pedal/crankset.The frame is Reynolds 531 Superlegger finished in a metallic gold powdercoat .The bike is very close to stock with Spidel hubs, Mavic Module E2's . I think the only departures are the seatpost(campy SR), saddle(Avocet women's), freewheel(Suntour NW-6 13-24), chain(Sedisport) and tyres.I'd like to locate the "correct" Milremo seatpost but ain't gonna hold my breath finding one. Tyres really should be a skinwall as the black Veloflexes on it now make the bike look a bit chunky to my eye.I recall she rode Hutchinson whitewall clinchers back then.

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Bertin C70 details-















btw, none of these bikes are wall hangers, tho admitedly, the bertin sees mostly good roads and sunny weather these days.

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Thanks for the detail shots. That color is amazing, and I do think skinwall tires would look very nice on it. I have certainly never seen those pedals before!
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It's a ******* child but....



With all of the great bikes on this thread I am almost embareassed
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Nothing new, just felt like posting another picture of my baby:

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Originally Posted by Lamplight
Thanks! The sticker says Tange Champion. Not sure where that ranks in Tange's line.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._9915small.jpg
I'm pretty sure that the older Champion tubing, before they came out with the numbering scheme on Champion, was equivalent to Tange No. 1, which for comparison is similar to Reynolds 531. The "Throughout" on the tubing decal is a tip-off that's it high-end tubing.
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Originally Posted by JunkYardBike
I'm pretty sure that the older Champion tubing, before they came out with the numbering scheme on Champion, was equivalent to Tange No. 1, which for comparison is similar to Reynolds 531. The "Throughout" on the tubing decal is a tip-off that's it high-end tubing.
Thanks for the information! I was pleased to see the entire frame was chromoly as it seems many bikes from this era have high tensile stays and forks. I'm not sure about the fork, but it's not bent so I'm pleased.
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Caterham,
Thanks for sharing a little bit of your collection with us.

A few questions, if you don't mind.

Did the crankset engravings come painted black, or did you do that? Mine came painted a light blue, although I have a second set, bought used that is unpainted. Also, what are the bars wrapped with? It appears shinier than cork, and wrapped from center to end, any problems with it 'pealing' back?

Last question...how come you have no missing paint on anything? Or did you just shoot around that?

Between my falling down (it was a freak accident, not a crash, I swear!), four sons, and lack of skill with tools, all of my bikes have nicks in them.

Also, some skinwall Veloflex tires would REALLY look nice on that.
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Bertin C70 details-















btw, none of these bikes are wall hangers, tho admitedly, the bertin sees mostly good roads and sunny weather these days.
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Originally Posted by funrover
It's a ******* child but....



With all of the great bikes on this thread I am almost embareassed
Don't be silly, that bike is cool! It looks like it should be ridden on a dirt road and slid through some corners.
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Hi John,

>>>Did the crankset engravings come painted black, or did you do that?<<<

you're taxing the 'ol neural pathways, dude. iirc, EX came in black and it wasn't until the introduction of AX that the lettering changed to blue... dunno about the unpainted bits.... maybe those were OEM stock? My contribution to this bike were a few spots of gold highlighting like what you see on the rear derailleur pic.


>>>Also, what are the bars wrapped with? It appears shinier than cork, and wrapped from center to end, any problems with it 'pealing' back?<<<

I have no idea what that tape is called. My wife worked for the US Bertin importer back then and that was something they carried at the time. It's stiffer and more rubbery than regular bar tapes and has a foamed cush to it.Actually I'd like to locate some more ,not so much for the wrap but rather the finishing tape supplied with it came in french colours-ie; red,white and blue stripes . Italian Tricolours just doesn't belong.
No issues with folding,rolling or slipping so long as the tape is pulled *very* tightly when it's applied. I will say that doing it that way is a slow process. You have to lay it down just a few cm's at a time, making sure the tape pulls taut as you go. Plus, I doubt if it would work as well with softer more pliable wraps like cork as the tension would likelystretch or tear the material. Even so, I prefer the look as there's a cleaner, smoother appearance, esp at the centre and it affords a more secure grip out on the outside of the bend where I spend the most time.

>>>...how come you have no missing paint on anything? Or did you just shoot around that?<<<

Mostly, i'm fussy with touch-ups, often even "mixing" various Duplicolor automotive spray can paints to get a decent match. For example, the colour-matched Zefal frame-fit pump on her bike wasn't stock but rather was originally a plain moulded white plastic. The paint I used was some gold spray made for crafts and hobbies where they wanted an antique gelded appearance. The paint had a rough finish much like the powdercoat and then it was given a clear lacquer overcoat to smooth it out and give it the proper depth.I think it worked out pretty well, myself. fwiw- the flats of the rear dropout clamping surfaces were sanded, masked and refinished the same way .

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