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Originally Posted by ollo_ollo
(Post 20181104)
Good job on the hanger restore Mark. Now that you touched a Frenchy frame, are you infected enough to move on to that classy Rochet that's hanging around the corner?
Andy, Vertyg says the 70 series stellas used Columbus SP, 1.0 mm ends and .7 mm body. Mine has those same lugs, but they aren't chromed and my lesser (probably Durifort) non-Columbus fork didn't get the long re-enforcement tang on the inside of its leg. Mine does have Campagnolo dropouts front & rear though. So I have just Columbus "Tre=Tubi" main frame, so got the triangle decal while the full Columbus frame sets have a rectangular Columbus decal on the seat tube plus the little, oval Columbus decals on the fork legs. I sense we need a "French Bike" gathering: Bastille Day, (July 14), is on a Saturday this year, would that be a good day? I'm going to sound out some locals to see if there is a low or no cost gathering spot in or near Salem. Don Does your Stella have metric-sized rubes? I don't think I'd ever seen Columbus tubing in metric sizes before. Also, I love the idea of a Bastille Day ride. Count me in! |
Originally Posted by 73StellaSX76
(Post 20181421)
I'll post a couple of pictures of my '73 for comparison. I bought it used in 1977 and had lots of braze-ons added and repainted (it was a light sky blue) not too long after that. It served as my college bike and is the bike I toured across the country with. It has many of the earmarks of the subject Stella bike: wrap around seat-stay cluster, really long fork crown tangs, main tubes Columbus, Campy dropouts. Mine has heart shaped cutouts on the lugs though. I have the rectangular Columbus sticker but I think to be more correct I should switch to the triangular 3 tube version, will have to track that one down.
My older brother turned me onto the brand when he brought one home from school in Santa Barbara. I knew little about bikes then. It hasn't been since the advent of the interwebs that I learned anything about the brand. I've always assumed mine is an SX-76 model as the catalog indicates Campy/Columbus. I'll be riding it at the Eroica California ride, hope to see many of you there. |
Just re-read this thread & realized I never followed up with a tubing measurement on my Stella for Andy.
Outside dimension on all: Seat tube is 28.5 mm, Down tube 28.3 mm and Top tube 26.3 mm, not sure how much of that is powder coat and clear coat. Don |
Those numbers seemed strange to me, so I looked up a chart for Columbus SL/SP. Supposed to be 28.6 ST/DT & 25.4 TT, my eyes are old and the lines are fine, so we may need help from Gugie with his tubing micrometer. Don
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Originally Posted by ollo_ollo
(Post 20304568)
Those numbers seemed strange to me, so I looked up a chart for Columbus SL/SP. Supposed to be 28.6 ST/DT & 25.4 TT, my eyes are old and the lines are fine, so we may need help from Gugie with his tubing micrometer. Don
Haven't checked charts but measured an early 80's Italian, reputedly SP (in at least the main tubes) - and my measurements on painted frame are 0.1 - 0.2mm larger than you list. :thumb: Not to derail thread, but: Does anyone know what metric 531 (main tubes) would have measured??? Still talking early 70's. 28.0 for ST/DT??? TT = ? Golly, I know - "Doesn't Google work on your connection?" |
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Break-away thin Italian paint maybe?:) My measurements were all under the spec for unpainted SL/SP. Charts are late 70's Don
edit: sorry about the double chart pic, not sure what happened, it was single when I saved it. |
[MENTION=8403]ollo_ollo[/MENTION], I'll bring the gauge back to see pappy on Bastille Day.
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Just measured mine for the first time
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Top Tube - 26.1mm
Seat Tube - 28.3mm Down Tube - 28.2mm Seat Post - 26.4mm The frame tubes have maybe a 0.1mm thick layer of Imron over them. I think these compare very similarly to the numbers you posted. I'm not sure how to interpret them though, I always assumed 1973 was pre-SL. Stella 2018.04.21.jpg |
On the SL being later, that's what I thought too . Some one, maybe Vertyg?, said Stellas were SP in another thread. Interesting. Those are closer. And mine has powder coat plus a clear coat and I had to clean up a run in the powder coat of the seat tube.
The chart was labeled "late seventies". Don't know when Stella had the fire & shut down, most accounts just say "in the 70's", but I would guess (due to bike boom+ fire) most Stellas are more likely early 70's than late 70's. Looking forward to Bastille day. |
Originally Posted by 73StellaSX76
(Post 20305554)
Top Tube - 26.1mm
Seat Tube - 28.3mm Down Tube - 28.2mm Seat Post - 26.4mm |
Originally Posted by ollo_ollo
(Post 20304518)
Just re-read this thread & realized I never followed up with a tubing measurement on my Stella for Andy.
Outside dimension on all: Seat tube is 28.5 mm, Down tube 28.3 mm and Top tube 26.3 mm, not sure how much of that is powder coat and clear coat. Don
Originally Posted by ollo_ollo
(Post 20304568)
Those numbers seemed strange to me, so I looked up a chart for Columbus SL/SP. Supposed to be 28.6 ST/DT & 25.4 TT, my eyes are old and the lines are fine, so we may need help from Gugie with his tubing micrometer. Don
I've learned that [MENTION=61614]verktyg[/MENTION]'s memory on these things is very reliable. So if what he said seems inaccurate we probably just misunderstood what he was saying. I know I've done that a few times. |
Originally Posted by Wildwood
(Post 20305084)
Not to derail thread, but:
Does anyone know what metric 531 (main tubes) would have measured??? Still talking early 70's. 28.0 for ST/DT??? TT = ? That's what I like about French dimensions. They only need the decimal place to let you know they are being precise. |
Originally Posted by ollo_ollo
(Post 20305670)
The chart was labeled "late seventies". Don't know when Stella had the fire & shut down, most accounts just say "in the 70's", but I would guess (due to bike boom+ fire) most Stellas are more likely early 70's than late 70's. Looking forward to Bastille day.
Agree it isn’t SL, I was looking at the wrong chart header. I do have an original brochure my brother gave me lists the SX-75/76 as built with Columbus. |
I came across an interesting bit of trivia last night. Apparently the internal code name that Atari used for the 2600 game console was "Stella" and the name was chosen because one of the engineers rode a Stella. As a child of the 80's who wasted a significant portion of my youth playing Atari games on that console, I'm pretty happy about that connection.
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