The elusive freewheel: 13-24?
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The constraint is not the freewheel. It's the rear derailleur. Y'all might not have noticed that he's using a Juy 543. That's not likely to be usable with a 6s ultra, as they are about 2mm wider than a 5s. The 543 derailleur's not like parallelogram derailleurs where you can just turn a screw and get more travel, its travel is limited by the traverse rod and can't be made longer (without some surgery, which I doubt anyone would do to a 543.) 2mm ain't much but it might be too much.
Unless someone can verify they've successfully made a 543 work with a 6s ultra, I'd stick with a 5s freewheel.
Unless someone can verify they've successfully made a 543 work with a 6s ultra, I'd stick with a 5s freewheel.
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The derailleur stays even if I have to jettison one cog.
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@tiger1964, I've sent you a PM about the freewheels.
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indeed!
But wouldn't one of those chains intended for 7 or 8 speed freewheels or cassettes do the job? I'm running those on two bikes now, with 5-speed freewheels, and with original chainrings.
But wouldn't one of those chains intended for 7 or 8 speed freewheels or cassettes do the job? I'm running those on two bikes now, with 5-speed freewheels, and with original chainrings.
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I wanted to stay with a 5s freewheel on my old Steyr because the Phil-hubbed wheelset I wanted to use wouldn't even come close to accepting an Ultra-6 freewheel, so I built up a 5s Uniglide as 13-15-17-20-24t to go with it's 52-36t cottered chainset.
It has a near-perfect spread of ratios for sporting riding here in the foothills, so is a great minimalist setup for me.
It has a near-perfect spread of ratios for sporting riding here in the foothills, so is a great minimalist setup for me.
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Looks like a nice color match between the paint and the derailleur pulleys!
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It would seem like you could snag one off of E-Bay easily enough:
Shimano5s (oops 6s), 13-24 BIN $20 + 5
Regina Oro 6s, 13-24 ITALIAN, Auction, $20 + $8.75
NOS Suntour Winner Pro, 5s, 13-22, BIN $19+$9.75
Cami Castano 5s 13-23, ITALIAN, BIN $24.50 +$5
Suntour, 6s, listed as 12-24, but I count 13T, $9.99/$16 + $10.79 Auction/BIN
Sachs 7s 12-24 BIN $28 + $0
Thanks @dddd for catching the Shimano was 6s.
I suppose that brings us back to mostly 6s freewheels. Still potentially possible for the OP's bike, but a bit tighter of a fit. And, the one Italian 13/23 which would probably be fine, but with one less tooth than the OP had hoped for.
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Regina Oro 6s, 13-24 ITALIAN, Auction, $20 + $8.75
NOS Suntour Winner Pro, 5s, 13-22, BIN $19+$9.75
Cami Castano 5s 13-23, ITALIAN, BIN $24.50 +$5
Suntour, 6s, listed as 12-24, but I count 13T, $9.99/$16 + $10.79 Auction/BIN
Sachs 7s 12-24 BIN $28 + $0
Thanks @dddd for catching the Shimano was 6s.
I suppose that brings us back to mostly 6s freewheels. Still potentially possible for the OP's bike, but a bit tighter of a fit. And, the one Italian 13/23 which would probably be fine, but with one less tooth than the OP had hoped for.
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Beware of that Ebay "5s" Shimano Uniglide 13-24t freewheel, picture shows it's actually a 6s freewheel!
EDIT: Yeah, I would have been tempted to buy it, then saw that it was a 6-speed.
Perhaps not that hard though to build up the same one that I have using a couple of commonly-available Shimano freewheels, but I had loose cogs at hand so it was easy.
EDIT: Yeah, I would have been tempted to buy it, then saw that it was a 6-speed.
Perhaps not that hard though to build up the same one that I have using a couple of commonly-available Shimano freewheels, but I had loose cogs at hand so it was easy.
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As a point of information about stack height between a Shimano 5 speed and an Atom 77 Compact 6 speed: They are identical. I have a Shimano 600 UG five speed on hand to compare to the Atom 77 Compact 6 speed and there is no difference between the widths.
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Thanks and that's good news, I feared needing to ask myself if I had the courage to Dremel the derailleur to try to buy a couple more mm of "throw"
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