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bigaadams 03-17-18 09:27 AM

The odd and weird stops here..
 
My local online yard sale page listed a Schwinn World Sport...no description other than that, TALL bike. I picked it up on a whim....complete bike, needs a tad of paint..decals faded and tires are dry rotted...has sat for years unused.

1984 Giant made, July production day 201 per badge stamp
25 inch frame, black in color (now listing it as a 27 thanks to readers helping with measuring)
12 speed
Schwinn Approved brake dual brake lever set
Dia-Compe brake sets
4130 Chromalloy frame with brazed water bottle mounts and alloy bottle holder
Weinmann alloy wheels 27 x 1 & 1/4
Suntour controls/derailuers
Surgino crankset
Champion aluminum handlebar/head marked CUSTOM, is also alloy
quick release skewer
stock seat by way of 1984 catalog, seat post height is marked on stem..
alloy kickstand

This bike is tall....I will never be able to ride it safely...but I liked the way it looked...needs a 6'4" minimum height rider...where is the Jolly Green Giant when you need him?

I know many do not like the post Chicago bikes....but, still worth cleaning up and saving to my thinking. Anyway, just sharing my find..

stardognine 03-17-18 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by bigaadams (Post 20228633)



This bike is tall....I will never be able to ride it safely...but I liked the way it looked...needs a 6'4" minimum height rider...where is the Jolly Green Giant when you need him?
..

Or 6'2", if you're mostly legs. And stop calling me the Jolly Green Giant. Only my oldest niece gets to do that. 😁 😉

merziac 03-17-18 12:10 PM

Many of us can ride a 25in, 63-64cm. I am only a tad over 6ft, but have a 37in inseam. Most of my bikes have a lot of seatpost showing even though they are 62, 63, 64. ;)

These are very solid riders and the quality is very good, they have a great following, most of them will probably be still be here when most of us are long gone.

Oh and by the way, pic's or it didn't happen. :rolleyes:



Originally Posted by bigaadams (Post 20228633)
My local online yard sale page listed a Schwinn World Sport...no description other than that, TALL bike. I picked it up on a whim....complete bike, needs a tad of paint..decals faded and tires are dry rotted...has sat for years unused.

1984 Giant made, July production day 201 per badge stamp
25 inch frame, black in color
12 speed
Schwinn Approved brake dual brake lever set
Dia-Compe brake sets
4130 Chromalloy frame with brazed water bottle mounts and alloy bottle holder
Weinmann alloy wheels 27 x 1 & 1/4
Suntour controls/derailuers
Surgino crankset
Champion aluminum handlebar/head marked CUSTOM, is also alloy
quick release skewer
stock seat by way of 1984 catalog, seat post height is marked on stem..
alloy kickstand

This bike is tall....I will never be able to ride it safely...but I liked the way it looked...needs a 6'4" minimum height rider...where is the Jolly Green Giant when you need him?

I know many do not like the post Chicago bikes....but, still worth cleaning up and saving to my thinking. Anyway, just sharing my find..


bigaadams 03-17-18 12:37 PM

will try to snag a pic a bit later...trying to beat the rain that is coming in and remove the shifter from a car I need to part out...car one, me 15 but my 15 is cuts and scrapes and grease...car is ahead at the moment..

bigaadams 03-17-18 02:36 PM

3 Attachment(s)
well, the shifter fought me...but I emerged victorious...

couple pics as promised.....

DMC707 03-17-18 02:57 PM

Wow- that is massive

merziac 03-17-18 03:42 PM

Pretty sure that is more than a 25in.

stardognine 03-17-18 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 20229222)
Pretty sure that is more than a 25in.

I was gonna say the same thing. That top tube worries me a bit. 😉

merziac 03-17-18 04:18 PM

How so? These are tough and stout by most accounts, both Giant and Schwinn have/had a lot of experience and I don't think I have ever seen any that failed without abnormal circumstances.


Originally Posted by stardognine (Post 20229257)
I was gonna say the same thing. That top tube worries me a bit. 😉


exmechanic89 03-17-18 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 20229222)
Pretty sure that is more than a 25in.

It's definitely bigger than a 25".

kc0yef 03-17-18 04:31 PM

nice to see a normal sized bike

Murray Missile 03-17-18 04:34 PM

Yeah, that's a 27"

https://www.bikeforums.net/attachmen...1&d=1521318895




Originally Posted by bigaadams (Post 20228633)
I know many do not like the post Chicago bikes....but, still worth cleaning up and saving to my thinking. Anyway, just sharing my find..



:lol: I'm 6' 1-1/2", anything smaller than a 25" and I have to add a Nitto Technomic stem and longer seat post. A 27" gets a little sketchy but I have one 26" with 27" wheels in addition to several 25" and it's no problem for me. I'm a huge fan of Panasonic built Schwinn's. I have a Tempo, 2 80's Super Sports and a Prelude, I also have a 25" Giant built World Sport I turned into a gravel bike.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/bFHySd.jpg

bigaadams 03-17-18 05:03 PM

the frame guide said to measure between the centerline of the crank boss (BB) and the center point the top tube connects to the upright (seat tube)....that was 25...but if I go to the top of the tube...yes it measures a bit more.....the catalog for 1984 stated largest frame for the World Sport was 64 centimeters which is 25.2 inch...so I guess I basically verified the catalog when I pulled the tape...did I measure the frame wrong..used a guide from online search.

bigaadams 03-17-18 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by stardognine (Post 20229257)
I was gonna say the same thing. That top tube worries me a bit. 😉

same here, I do not want to reposition or change shape of the jewels, there is no way I can even tippy toe this bike

stardognine 03-17-18 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 20229275)
How so? These are tough and stout by most accounts, both Giant and Schwinn have/had a lot of experience and I don't think I have ever seen any that failed without abnormal circumstances.

Oh no, I don't mean structurally, just fit-wise, for myself. In other words, I "might" be able to ride it, but I'd be very cautious about starting out. 😲 😁

merziac 03-17-18 05:37 PM

Gotcha, scary standover height, post CSPC bike fit and all. ;)


Originally Posted by stardognine (Post 20229395)
Oh no, I don't mean structurally, just fit-wise, for myself. In other words, I "might" be able to ride it, but I'd be very cautious about starting out. 😲 😁


merziac 03-17-18 05:42 PM

Sounds like the process was right but I have seen 25in frames with head tubes half that length. Maybe double check for good measure. Maybe just an optical conclusion, what do I know. ;)

BB centerline is measured off the end of the crank axle or center of dustcap, just to clarify.

Also pretty sure there would have been special order large frames, panasonic made some huge ones.


Originally Posted by bigaadams (Post 20229344)
the frame guide said to measure between the centerline of the crank boss (BB) and the center point the top tube connects to the upright (seat tube)....that was 25...but if I go to the top of the tube...yes it measures a bit more.....the catalog for 1984 stated largest frame for the World Sport was 64 centimeters which is 25.2 inch...so I guess I basically verified the catalog when I pulled the tape...did I measure the frame wrong..used a guide from online search.


Gravity Aided 03-17-18 05:56 PM

Looks like 27" here also. I had one, and at 6'3", it was a bike just a bit too big for me. World Sports were like a bargain, I think in their early years they cost around a hundred bucks new and provided good components and rugged durability for their price point. A good bike for starting out, or for a commuter.

gugie 03-17-18 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 20228907)
Many of us can ride a 25in, 63-64cm. I am only a tad over 6ft, but have a 37in inseam. Most of my bikes have a lot of seatpost showing even though they are 62, 63, 64. ;)

These are very solid riders and the quality is very good, they have a great following, most of them will probably be still be here when most of us are long gone.

Oh and by the way, pic's or it didn't happen. :rolleyes:

You [MENTION=280039]Lascauxcaveman[/MENTION] and [MENTION=340794]Dfrost[/MENTION] could swap bikes. I'm all torso, so count me out.

bigaadams 03-17-18 06:07 PM

ok...I went back online.....I looked at a couple charts for measuring the bike...this is what most folks go by it seems...the center line of the BB to the top of the seat tube....27 inches.....

for a tall tall person I would think going into a shop and finding a 27 inch frame would be rather difficult or iffy as to be in stock..am sure anyone can order a larger frame and wait for it to arrive...thanks to everyone for pointing out my measuring error...

GrainBrain 03-17-18 06:17 PM

What a coincidence I found the exact same bike last year propped against the trash bin. Same color and year, same size!

I rode it a few times for fun, it was a good ride except that it barely fit with the seat post slammed. I donated it to my local bike cooperative, they stripped it and have the frameset hanging from the ceiling for sale. They informed me it was a 68cm when I thought it was only a 25"!

Really liked the white/yellow on black scheme.

bigaadams 03-17-18 06:27 PM

I have always been amazed at some of the things folks throw out....I guess they grow tired of their bike, heck riding in their area now be a bit more unpleasant with more drivers on the road and most of them texting. I have tons and tons of stuff to do at my place but I still like to clean up an older bike and often pass it on just for cost. I put a few children on bikes last year....donated a few in the past...guess it just keeps me from having idle hands when I get overwhelmed in a current project and need a break but not sit on my butt either.

RiddleOfSteel 03-17-18 07:19 PM

One look at that frame and I thought 100% that's a 27" frame (68.5cm). Schwinn only offered 25.5" in a few bikes in the early '80s, and they were high-end offerings (to say nothing of a custom-ordered Paramount). Everything else got 2" increment sizing, and the World Sport was no different. I do like World Sports (started out on one), and they have always had decent proportioning, even at the hard-to-do-it 27" size. Commendable, IMO. Solid riders, as others have said.

SquidPuppet 03-17-18 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by bigaadams (Post 20229344)
the frame guide said to measure between the centerline of the crank boss (BB) and the center point the top tube connects to the upright (seat tube)....that was 25...but if I go to the top of the tube...yes it measures a bit more.....the catalog for 1984 stated largest frame for the World Sport was 64 centimeters which is 25.2 inch...so I guess I basically verified the catalog when I pulled the tape...did I measure the frame wrong..used a guide from online search.

It was available in 27 inch

http://waterfordbikes.com/SchwinnCat...1984Ltwt15.JPG

The Golden Boy 03-17-18 11:31 PM

The 84 and later World Sport is a good bike.

CrMo main frame and decent components.


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