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Old 03-17-18, 02:12 PM
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DIY curious? Getting the kink out of your derailleur - over 18 bike porn

I'd like to give this one a shift

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Looks like a dirt-catcher design and it sounds like he almost put it into the spokes... but neat fabrication skills.
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50s bikes had the RD mounted further ahead , on the chainstays , in about that location..
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
50s bikes had the RD mounted further ahead , on the chainstays , in about that location..
True that but even earlier. I have this mid- 1930's hanging on a late 50's era bike. Acquired it NOS including cable, lever and instructions (French print). The instructions show where to drill an index hole under the chainstay, the idea for the mount bracket to remain in position.

[IMG]IMG_7139 by carrera247, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Very cool. I also like the chainstay protector although I can’t tell how it’s secured.
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If I wanted something to shift that poorly, I’d just used Campy NR.
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If I wanted something to shift that poorly, I’d just used Campy NR.
Yeah but you make it yourself! It would be just like all the other half ass kludges around my house.
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Plunger type mechanisms on derailleurs are not new with many of them that came and went through the ages, but not sure If a rack and pinion type like this was tried out yet. This one can be further developed with a top cover, bellows and seals to keep the grunge and moisture out of the internal mechanism.
Makes the rear dropout and RD a bit more susceptible to crash damage, as it is fully rigid, without that bit of "give" that a typical springed/jointed RD has.
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Credit to the creator for tinkering and coming up with something that works (mostly)!

It would be interesting to learn what the creator knew about the history of the derailleur, and specifically, if he/she knew about plunger derailleurs. I always liked how the plunger derailleurs used a linear movement of the cable to produce a linear movement of the pulleys. The creator of this derailleur chose instead to convert the linear cable movement to a rotary motion by wrapping it around a drum, and then converted that back to a linear motion with the rack and pinion. Seems like a lot of added complexity with no particular added value.
Of course, I've never shifted a plunger derailleur, so maybe I'm missing something??

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Originally Posted by crank_addict
True that but even earlier. I have this mid- 1930's hanging on a late 50's era bike. Acquired it NOS including cable, lever and instructions (French print). The instructions show where to drill an index hole under the chainstay, the idea for the mount bracket to remain in position.

[IMG]IMG_7139 by carrera247, on Flickr[/IMG]
cool stuff!
Does it just use the cable to make the change in direction? Doesn't seem like there's enough room to use the tiny chain like so many other designs.


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What might have been lost is the angular tracking of the jockey wheels to stay near to the cogs
as what was pioneered by the Japanese with the angled parallelogram designs that was eventually copied by everyone. I guess that feature
can be somehow added into the design.
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Thats quite a design...looks like an old Huret.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
If I wanted something to shift that poorly, I’d just used Campy NR.
Mine work fine. Let us know the problems you are having and maybe we can help you sort them out.
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Originally Posted by crank_addict
I'd like to give this one a shift

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEIsoEwJWoE
That's neat! It reminds me of some of the things I see in "The Dancing Chain" where all kinds of derailleur designs were tried when the technology was brand-new and any idea you could think of was on the table.

If that rack-and-pinion one were scootched backward a little in relation to the mounting bolt, and perhaps angled a little to move with the freewheel, I could see it shifting a lot better. But with the added complication, I see more opportunities for it to gum up and not work well if dirt got into it.
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