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Old 03-23-18, 04:20 PM
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Vancouver scammer or at least a liar

There's this guy selling bikes on craigslist who's a total liar. I sold my Nishiki Olympic last week to a young guy who said he wanted a ride for the summer. I had listed it for cheap because I just wanted to cut down a little bit on the bikes I had to take care of. It's one of my taller bikes so it went first. I spent time explaining its an older bike, what issues he could have finding replacement parts, told him to get it checked for safety. And since he said he was a student I let it go for even cheaper.

I was looking at craigslist again today and I see the bike posted for over 10 times what I sold it for. I'm not pissed I didn't make money of it, as that wasn't why I sold it. But you would think a young guy would at least be honest about why he wanted it.

I can tell it's the bike I sold because he didn't bother changing out the seat bolt which was still sticking out and the pedals are clearly the cheap used ones I put on there.

In his ad he implies he's had it since high school and it's always kept indoors. Well, I used it as my rain bike so that's a complete load of bull.

This is a bit disappointing.
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Old 03-23-18, 04:22 PM
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Old 03-23-18, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
Did you get what you wanted for it?
Not really because what I wanted was for it to go to somebody who'd use it not flip it for money. Sure, after it's out of my hands I can't control what happens to it, but he lied when he said he wanted to a ride for the summer. All he did was take me for a ride.

And I wasted time explaining things about the bike as well.

I don't have anything against flippers, just feel I've been lied to is all.
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Not really because what I wanted was for it to go to somebody who'd use it not flip it for money. Sure, after it's out of my hands I can't control what happens to it, but he lied when he said he wanted to a ride for the summer. All he did was take me for a ride.

And I wasted time explaining things about the bike as well.

I don't have anything against flippers, just feel I've been lied to is all.
I sold a bike for $40 once, and next week the buyer had it posted on Charlotte C/L for $500 (next closest C/L). Its just how it goes. Guy was an idiot as it certainly wasn't a $500 bike, maybe $75 max.

Never believe what random people tell you, its all about just selling it and moving on. Once you sell it, buyer has the right to do whatever he wants to it. You can't control it.
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
I sold a bike for $40 once, and next week the buyer had it posted on Charlotte C/L for $500 (next closest C/L). Its just how it goes. Guy was an idiot as it certainly wasn't a $500 bike, maybe $75 max.

Never believe what random people tell you, its all about just selling it and moving on. Once you sell it, buyer has the right to do whatever he wants to it. You can't control it.
You're right of course. It was a cheap bike but it was fairly comfortable. I was thinking of moving another one of my taller bikes after this one but now maybe I'll just keep it a little bit longer and just sell to someone I know personally.
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Yes, giving friends a deal always feels better than selling to a liar. I have heard enough stories from buyers I no longer believe any of them (sadly).
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The only time I've been scammed on this forum was by a some punky dude (Frank?) who wanted a CCM specifc stem and would send a saddle in trade, from Vancouver. That was his last post on the forum.

Cmon BC, get it together!
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Pathological buyer, I mean liar.
Reminds me of an old radio skit that kind of works today with a few substitutions:
Hi friends, tricky Dick of Tricky Dick's sensational used cars, right across the street from but not in the Lincoln Memorial at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue...
Look at the bright blue unit on your screen, notice the clear headlights, bright chrome, clean shaven white walls, you might be asking yourself "but what does it cost?" No worries, you come on down and we will stick it to you.
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You should answer the ad, meet up with him and offer what he paid you.
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"Very fast downhill"? Really? What a tool.
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs View Post
You should answer the ad, meet up with him and offer what he paid you.
This.Is.Awesome.
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Correct guess. You could be a detective.
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Originally Posted by nesteel View Post
"Very fast downhill"? Really? What a tool.
Yes, I noticed more than one posting with that exact same line. I believe they're all his. I almost went to see one of his bikes last summer thinking it might be suitable for my daughter. I passed because I figured it wouldn't take fenders.
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Dang I made all my money flipping bikes in high school a couple years ago. If I saw this posted for less than $35 you can be sure I woulda flipped it in a sec.
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs View Post
You should answer the ad, meet up with him and offer what he paid you.
Have someone test ride it, and then you ride it back and give him 35 bucks.
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Originally Posted by thinktubes View Post
Time to move on...
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I really don't understand the idea that selling something for less than it's worth on the open market entitles the seller to anything.

Friends, I'll give a big discount to. Family, or friends of friends and family maybe. Everyone else, the sale is at the intersection of supply and demand.
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Dang I made all my money flipping bikes in high school a couple years ago. If I saw this posted for less than $35 you can be sure I woulda flipped it in a sec.
Close. I originally posted for $50. I knew it was cheap but part of the reason I did that other than I just wanted to cut down was prices on our local cl seem to be getting a bit pricey to me. So I thought I could offer one that was reasonably priced and I would have preferred someone who wouldn't just be in it to add yet another overpriced gas pipe bike to the market. You know, someone who actually intended to ride it.

Still if he'd just been straight with me when I asked him why he wanted the bike I would still have taken his money. I just wouldn't be as disillusioned as I am now.

Not that I think hi tensile frames are bad. It was a nice comfortable ride when I had it and I still have at one all hi tensile frame and maybe a couple more partial ones.

OTOH he's outright lying in his ad. It wasn't his since high school, and he has no clue how it was stored. So I guess yeah, I was born yesterday and I probably deserved this. Just feel like I've been tricked.
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Originally Posted by gugie View Post
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I really don't understand the idea that selling something for less than it's worth on the open market entitles the seller to anything.

Friends, I'll give a big discount to. Family, or friends of friends and family maybe. Everyone else, the sale is at the intersection of supply and demand.
Ok. I've learned the lesson. Moving on. At least tomorrow looks like a nice day for a ride.
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That's the spirit! Next time try the bike co-op or come program that gives bikes to those who need one. Makes n-1 all warm and fuzzy.
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At least you'll have a chuckle every time you see that listing still languishing on CL a year from now. $350 for a stem-shifter beater...
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Yes, giving friends a deal always feels better than selling to a liar. I have heard enough stories from buyers I no longer believe any of them (sadly).
That's the truth.

"Stories" is what you get.
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If I'm seeing what I think I'm seeing (in the photo), the listed bike still has old front fender "death" attachment of the supporting struts at the dropout eyelet(?).

I've had a wheel lock up from something that stuck to a tire and collapse a similar fender, but fortunately it was a rear fender and I merely skidded to a stop.
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Yes, giving friends a deal always feels better than selling to a liar. I have heard enough stories from buyers I no longer believe any of them (sadly).
When I moved out of town many years ago I had an apartment sale. Row of paperbacks on the mantle priced at a quarter apiece. Couple comes in and starts tipping selected volumes into a shopping bag and told me, "We pay ten cents for paperbacks." I told him, "Dump those out and get the hell out of my apartment. I'd rather give those books to friends than sell them to you."
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