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iab 04-22-18 08:40 PM

1925-ish Frejus
 
Why use derailleurs? Overrated.

More pictures here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57683670331953

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/868/3...41c1aaa5_h.jpgFrejus 01 by iabisdb, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/903/3...a58497ac_h.jpgFrejus 06 by iabisdb, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/822/4...ca6cb4ae_h.jpgFrejus 10 by iabisdb, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/890/2...a68916d8_h.jpgFrejus 24 by iabisdb, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/851/4...d2f5f5ea_h.jpgFrejus 44 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Iowegian 04-22-18 09:12 PM

In all the years I've been on BF that has to be one of the nicest bikes I've seen. Congrats and enjoy!

iab 04-22-18 09:32 PM

Thanks. It rides nice. I wish the stem was a bit longer. but it would be difficult to find a replacement.

Steve Whitlatch 04-22-18 10:47 PM

The bike is really cool with all that wonderful patina. It really is amazing how long a steel frame can last.

FrejusFlyer 04-22-18 11:44 PM

Hot dang! That's purty!

dddd 04-22-18 11:58 PM

Wow, what thinned lugs this bike has!


Didn't know that Frejus went back that far.


Is that t normal 70mm Ital-threaded BB?


Just too cool.


I might lose the modern housing ferrules, or shorten them(?).


And you actually rode it!

markk900 04-23-18 05:29 AM

Fantastic bike and great job on the clean up! I assume that is a spare Frejus saddle in the detail pictures?

Kilroy1988 04-23-18 06:36 AM

Good morning, iab!

Another great one! I really like the bikes you've got albums for in flickr. Do you keep most of them around, or just the favorites?

I have a question you would be able to answer, if anyone can... On the old bottle cages made from the heavy-gauge wire, like the Simplex one you've got, are they heat-treated and springy like later cages, or easily bent out of shape? Thanks!

due ruote 04-23-18 07:00 AM

Amazing bike and I think it’s cool that you still ride it. A really special century in 7 years would be epic.

jeirvine 04-23-18 07:13 AM

And frilly lugs are for fancy lads. That's a manly bike there. Great find!

Spaghetti Legs 04-23-18 07:13 AM

Those wheels are gorgeous! Very cool bike.

KonAaron Snake 04-23-18 08:19 AM

WOW! I'd love to hear how this came to be...

northbend 04-23-18 08:50 AM

Very cool bike, iab!

obrentharris 04-23-18 09:00 AM

Great bike!
Now I understand the quest for that pair of hubs.
Brent

kunsunoke 04-23-18 09:00 AM

Really nice bike, iab.

Is that a fixed/free setup?

Also - just noticed what looks like an offset spoke setup on the back wheel.

The spokes look modern. Do you find you have to true the wheels very often?

iab 04-23-18 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by dddd (Post 20300928)
Wow, what thinned lugs this bike has!


Didn't know that Frejus went back that far.


Is that t normal 70mm Ital-threaded BB?


Just too cool.


I might lose the modern housing ferrules, or shorten them(?).


And you actually rode it!

Yes, a nicely made bike. Good craft is not only a modern thing. Frejus was founded by Ghelfi in 1896, sold it to Bozzi in 1946. Yes, a regular Italian 70mm BB with the "wrong" threads. I'll check period pics of of ferrules. Now you got my ocd going. Bastard. :p

Me actually riding the bike.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/812/27...7a10a8_c_d.jpg

iab 04-23-18 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by markk900 (Post 20301075)
Fantastic bike and great job on the clean up! I assume that is a spare Frejus saddle in the detail pictures?

The spare is the rider saddle. Obviously the original (so cool that it is original) is unrideable. It is a Rudi #189.

iab 04-23-18 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Kilroy1988 (Post 20301151)
Good morning, iab!

Another great one! I really like the bikes you've got albums for in flickr. Do you keep most of them around, or just the favorites?

I have a question you would be able to answer, if anyone can... On the old bottle cages made from the heavy-gauge wire, like the Simplex one you've got, are they heat-treated and springy like later cages, or easily bent out of shape? Thanks!

My albums are organized with the bikes I still own on top, rides/events I did in the middle and bikes I sold on the bottom.

My Simplex cage is spring steel.

iab 04-23-18 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by due ruote (Post 20301192)
Amazing bike and I think it’s cool that you still ride it. A really special century in 7 years would be epic.

Definitely crossed my mind. But the date is only a guess. Square lugs are definitely prior to 1930, but no real date code anywhere. I say 25-ish because there is a 25 stamped on the BB shell, but who knows what that means.

iab 04-23-18 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by jeirvine (Post 20301221)
And frilly lugs are for fancy lads. That's a manly bike there. Great find!

Damn straight!

But straight lugs are a stress riser and more likely to break over carved lugs. Hence the switch back in the day.

iab 04-23-18 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs (Post 20301222)
Those wheels are gorgeous! Very cool bike.

Thanks. obviously not original, but the we are fairly certain the wheels that were on the bike are not original either.
CBItalia rims with 2.0mm straight gauge stainless spokes on 20s flip flop (giroruota) hubs. The hubs were a tough nut. I "had" to go to a swap in Milan to find them.

iab 04-23-18 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 20301353)
WOW! I'd love to hear how this came to be...

Long story short, a friend sold it to me out of the blue. He knew I was looking for a long time. Completely unexpected as he doesn't sell anything. He found it 30 years ago in an antique store. We figure whoever emigrated to the US brought their bike.

iab 04-23-18 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by kunsunoke (Post 20301477)
Really nice bike, iab.

Is that a fixed/free setup?

Also - just noticed what looks like an offset spoke setup on the back wheel.

The spokes look modern. Do you find you have to true the wheels very often?

It is fixed/free. But I could ride it fixed/fixed. The spoke holes are drilled at an angle, front and back. Modern spokes because I don't have a death wish. With wood wheels I give them a spin on the truing stand once a year.

Joshcole1122 04-23-18 05:46 PM

Love the simplistic look

repechage 04-23-18 05:58 PM

Probably earlier than I could ride, my hands just would not be able to grasp the brake levers.

Any idea on what the boss, (threaded?) on the outside of the drive side seat stay was for?


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