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Old 04-23-18, 09:01 PM
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Gents - I cant hide the shame :)

I have flirted with all manner of decency recently with my new track bike and gotten away with it somewhat as its steel and does have a lug or two

This one I cry "No Mas' ----

I may be ostracized for a while

After a few years of riding exclusively C&V on the road side (I have a modernish 10 speed Cannondale, but somethi8ng about the fit has always eluded me and I have been throwing darts at the wall trying to make it work )

My LBS had a year old ---- avert your eyes if you must ---- Di2 disc brake Tarmac that I was able to wrangle from him for an agreeable sum

Think of this as a mission to observe and report ---- After rebuilding and having fun with numerous C&V builds , -- I wanted to try something cutting edge or close to it --- and the Bass boat blue metalflake was a deal clincher --- but much like Kevin Costner in Waterworld (Ive seen Dry land!!!" ) --- i'll give you guys the straight dope on real world performance with an aging Clydesdale






Since my 80's DeRosa with some late model accoutrements is my to date finest riding machine, I am bringing it to the fit session to try and duplicate as much of that magic as I can , --- but the Di2 is ridiculous - just breathe on the shifters and it shifts, --- and that's an easy enough technology to retrofit on any of our resto-mod bikes

-- the "get aquainted" ride stretched out to about 10 miles --- not long per se' but far longer than I have ever taken a new ride from a shop around the block unless it was a demo

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Old 04-23-18, 09:14 PM
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Sorry but you will have to start getting used to reading the word "Asplode" in you new threads in BF C&V forum.....
BTW, I can give that De Rosa a good home if you decide to go totally into the dark side.....
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Old 04-23-18, 09:15 PM
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Heretic!!! If it makes you smile when you ride it, then that is all that truly matters IMHO be it beach cruiser, DeRosa or Modern super bike
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Old 04-23-18, 09:27 PM
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Old 04-23-18, 09:59 PM
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It's good to go back and forth, modern to vintage. I did that today, taking my 20 year old brifter 10 speed custom bike out for first ride post fall. It's so nice to have those 10 gears to choose from, on a bike made for you. The only failing, my ages old SPD shoes with one cleat that came loose mid ride, BUT, I stopped before the bolts fell out, and tightened things up, now that's a lucky day. Just enjoy the experience of a good ride.
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Vive la difference! There is no shame as many of us have late model steeds residing alongside the vintage fillies. Me, I have a Trek hybrid with disc brakes that I love and an All City Big Block that will probably be the second-to-last bike I own.
The last will be vintage for sure. Just hope I live long enough for it to be even vintag-er.
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Originally Posted by since6 View Post
. Just enjoy the experience of a good ride.

I will --- I kind of like comparing and contrasting new vs old (well, older I guess) ---

I have had a few modernish bikes come through my garage --- 15-20ish year old bikes with steel or alloy front ends and the carbon back ends that were de riguer a few years back --------
A Pinarello with a carbon back end is really plush, and a Coppi I bought from @Spaghetti Legs feels short and precise, almost like a track bike in comparison


---- I have to say , some of them had excellent ride qualities and great manners, but none really blew my skirt up like my first shakedown cruise on that De-Rosa, so that is my bench mark for the foreseeable future
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How you DARE!
You're the shame of the C&V forum!

(end of hypocritical/jealous mode)

Congrats! Wish I'd get such an opportunity...
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Old 04-23-18, 10:23 PM
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Old 04-23-18, 10:48 PM
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Your De-Rosa is like my Stevenson Custom, it's always good when I come back to it, makes the miles easy so that you can see and experience the ride. Not much else to say.
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Old 04-23-18, 11:09 PM
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Non-vintage age (so far...) RiddleOfSteel heartily approves @DMC707 ! I love my vintage rides as much as the next C&V, but for weight, performance, and acceleration, my '16 Trek Emonda ALR 6 frameset (full aluminum frame, full carbon fork), with eventually-to-be-vintage 7800 DA, is a rocket, begging me to attack steep hills and give it the beans on the flats. It practically chomps at the bit for me to get out of the saddle and go. That is a ton of fun!! And the only bike that bridges the speed gap between all steel and the Emonda is my Prologue.

And on another note, I am about to go the dark side nearly-fully, as you have--everything minus the Di2...well, and Ultegra instead of Dura-Ace. But I am seriously PUMPED about it. And as par for the course, it's a frame-up build with about half a dozen new things to learn/experience in building up, which I am looking forward to. I shall report back of my hydro disc and BB30 (conversion, perhaps) adventures...though only in passing here because this is C&V and I will respect it as a category as best I can. Just know that this frame will sport traditional (classic) geometry, if that gives you a clue to the manufacturer.
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Old 04-23-18, 11:23 PM
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Evil. I say evil!!
(hehe, oh and I do know the temptation. LBS has loaned me a few rockets. The Di2 is another story in itself... brilliant, really defines the word.)

OP- But whats up with the DORK disc? Why is it on there? Every shift should be crispy, lazer vizzy on a cog without any over shift. It zeros in on whatever cog selection.

One weird thing that I noticed is having no 'finger feel or that what the hell did it shift' feel. Especially while wearing gloves. It all works seamless and fast. Habit of looking down at the rear vs. our old school shift by feel.

Congrats and pop a wheelie to your happiness
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Old 04-23-18, 11:31 PM
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That sparkle paint rocks. Skinwall tires for a bit of class... Looks like a win to me!

+1 on immediate resolution of dork disc issue.
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That looks like a very, very fast bike. And I, too, love the sparkle paint/gelcoat/frosting/whatever.

My one quibble is the dork disk is waaaay too small. Man up!
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Probably will ride OK with a 650b conversion.
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I'm calling these chaps:



You'll get the 'Comfy Chair' and the 'Nice Cup of Tea' for your heresy.!
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The horror! The horror!
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I see no problem until the battery goes south.
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I see no problem until the battery goes south.
Yup - DeRosa says “I’ll be waiting for you, no need to plug me in”

I haven’t yet tried electronic but an older friend of mine swears by it for his arthritic hands. Nothing wrong with a little modern plastic in the bike stable. My wife has a Specialized Tarmac that is a pretty nice bike but she chooses the Tommasini Tecno Extra more frequently!
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My two most recent acquisitions are a brand new 2018 Giant hybrid with hydraulic discs, and a 1982 Motobecane that I found at a thrift shop for 10 bucks. Both are cool in different ways. Whatever keeps you on two wheels is alright in my book!
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Wow thats some nice fillet brazing on the Tarmac.
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At least it still looks like a bike--more than I can say for some of these montstrocities.
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I saidddd g'day! ( Fez from that 70s show ).

No, but in all seriousness, thats an amazing looking bike, very much liking that color. Ive never ridden a 'modern' bike as most of my bikes are fitted with Camp/Durace 8 spd Ergo/Sti and thats the most modern ill ever get (unless i upgrade to an 11 etc), but I have always been curious on the performance difference...let us know!

By the way, the other day I was riding around town and came across a cyclist with one of those 'modern' bikes..thought he'd be interested in a little race...I was gone. Next stoplight, we both come to a stop, he looks back and checks out my bike..not going to lie, felt kind of nice knowing steel is still real. I was riding my Zunow Z-1.

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Went on a group ride last night, every time I do so it makes me think of a modern cf sub 18 pounder, esp on the hill climbs. If I had $ to burn probably would do the same thing, enjoy it!
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No problem on the Tackmac. It's a bike, roll with it.

Now, let me send you a quill stem for that 'Rosa (it holds a 31.8), so you can get back some self-respect.
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