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Old 05-23-18, 09:02 AM
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Colnago Touring?

Hi, just came up with that? Any ideas?



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Old 05-23-18, 09:15 AM
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Old 05-23-18, 09:18 AM
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It's a new one on me... beautifully made, though.

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Originally Posted by DIMcyclist View Post
It's a new one on me... beautifully made, though.

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new to google also 25.8 selcof seat post, ofmega cranks and headset, itm handlebar and stem. fenders and chaing guard marked colnago even a lamp with colnago
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Hmmm...

A most unique bike. However, I think I'm leaning towards it being a well made fake.

Strip away the parts, and the only thing on the frame that says "Colnago" is the fork. It actually looks somewhat French. I don't think I've seen Colnago use chromed fork tips, although Colnago has sold fully chromed forks that could be painted in that manner.

Is the lettering on the chainguard raised or engraved?

Some people have gotten responses from Colnago. Perhaps it would be worth contacting them and asking their opinion.

Can you take better photos of the rear dropouts and the seat stay caps?
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lettering on mudguards is engraved but on chain guard is raised
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The changuard and the fenders are embossed. The fork is engraved with a braze on for the generator. The paint seems to be all the same and original.

Perhaps this a bike that was made for the domestic market in Italy?
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Thanks for the additional photos.

Those details look quite un Colnago. Most of the Colnago frames I've seen have straight ends to the dropout brazing, and Campy or Colnago forged dropouts. Plus, the seatstay caps look different.

Originally Posted by Velo Mule View Post
Perhaps this a bike that was made for the domestic market in Italy?
Possibly. Some cities like Parma have a huge "city bike" market.

Or this could be a licensed outside manufactured frame. But, I'm still skeptical.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
There are no degrees of uniqueness.
true, but something isnt right. itm stem and handlebar just dont match, no name hubs and saccon brakes. even colnago sport decal is diffrent from what I saw

ofmega crank and ambrosio rims though and the chrome lugs are very nice

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Old 05-23-18, 11:48 AM
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Hmmm... Now that is odd...

I started wondering whether the front dropouts matched the rear or not, as the fork crown likely was Colnago, although it doesn't seem quite right either.

And, they do, in fact, have the fender mounts, and rather cheap looking pressed steel front dropouts.

Perhaps the answer is in the "Colnago Sport" which is a line of bikes that broke all the "rules" for Colnago bikes. It is somewhat ambiguous exactly where the Sport models came from.
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My '94 catalog has "City Bike Donna" and "City Bike Uomo" , so it has been done. I'm getting an 80's feel from this one though.
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Never seen the like. I lean towards well done "tribute" with some genuine parts. But if Colnago ever made a city bike, would expect something like this. Don
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Hmmm... Now that is odd...

I started wondering whether the front dropouts matched the rear or not, as the fork crown likely was Colnago, although it doesn't seem quite right either.

And, they do, in fact, have the fender mounts, and rather cheap looking pressed steel front dropouts.

Perhaps the answer is in the "Colnago Sport" which is a line of bikes that broke all the "rules" for Colnago bikes. It is somewhat ambiguous exactly where the Sport models came from.
true but have you ever seen sport with chrome look like mexico lugs?
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Great to see a non-racer Colnago to for a change! All complete with accessories too!
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Can you find a “Made by VeloSport” marking anywhere?

https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/19...l-find.123026/

There’s some info out there about the Colnago Sport and they’ve popped up here once or twice, this one’s has some obvious differences from the ones you typically see. That’s not to say that it isn’t necessarily genuine for what it is, but I wouldn’t call it a genuine Colnago. No offense intended of course, it’s an interesting bike!

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no, nothing like that anywhere
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Great to see a non-racer Colnago to for a change! All complete with accessories too!
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1987 Colnago MTB

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Great to see a non-racer Colnago to for a change! All complete with accessories too!
I had a 1987 Colnago MTB that I sold last year. It had Master Ibex Columbus Gilco tubing and a 1987 Shimano Deore MTB gruppo. The bars and stem were pantographed.

I had it for almost 10 years and only rode it a few times. Colnago didn't have a clue about MTB frame geometry. It weighed a ton, rode like a tank and on the road handled like a twitchy criterium bike. Off road it was completely squirrely!

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I had a 1987 Colnago MTB that I sold last year. It had Master Ibex Columbus Gilco tubing and a 1987 Shimano Deore MTB gruppo. The bars and stem were pantographed.

I had it for almost 10 years and only rode it a few times. Colnago didn't have a clue about MTB frame geometry. It weighed a ton, rode like a tank and on the road handled like a twitchy criterium bike. Off road it was completely squirrely!

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Such a neat bike / slice in time, too bad the designers got the handling so wrong...!
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Colnago MTB

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Such a neat bike / slice in time, too bad the designers got the handling so wrong...!
It was certainly unique. Most MTBers had no idea what a Colnago was and street riders never noticed a fade painted MTB.

I grabbed it as soon as it popped up on eBay. It had been owned by a MTBing woman in NC. She'd ridden it hard but the bike was still in good condition. Got rid of the old knobbies and put on some large gravel cruncher tires which should have smoothed out the ride. Even at 55 psi it was still harsh riding on the street!

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If nothing else, the frame would look pretty hanging on your wall.

Hmmm... the OP's bike has got me thinking.... Umberto Dei used to make frames rather like this; maybe there was a time when Colnago thought about doing the same? Branching out, making more than racing frames for broader market support?

Edit: on doing a bit of poking around online, I've found that this style of bike was called a 'Condorino.' It seems all the biggest Italian brands made them- Binachi, Legano, Atala, even Coppi and Bottecchia (as well as countless smaller makers), and that they're considered the classic Italian city bike. I found two images of a Colnago Sport (from eBay/ Italy)- both dating from the early '70s- that aren't too much different from the one shown in the OP's images. They're not as elaborate or fully accessorized, but they lead me to think the OP's bike might be something quite unusual, and that some of the components are likely upgrades from original spec.

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