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I'd gladly loan it. I would just take a deposit, say 2X what the bike is worth. And when it was returned, adjust the deposit for any damage/issues. If he wants use of the bike for free, ask if you can borrow some of his cool cameras, or his car for a road trip to Vegas, or whatever. Movie companies are famous for charging a lot of money to rent movie props to themselves, with another charge when the item is returned, plus repair costs, etc. Nothing free in the movies.
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Let's see the bike!
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Originally Posted by polymorphself
(Post 20395029)
Let's see the bike!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...46be280fa0.jpg I'm pretty sure this is a very-very indie shoestring effort. I would not be interested at all if it were a professional film. I'm going to text him and suggest we meet over coffee next week and have him describe his project. As I said, knowing how hard it is for a young artist to get a break, I'm inclined to look for an opportunity to add a little good karma. |
An option might be to offer to build up a stunt double for the project.
Keep your prize bike at home, and send out a little cheaper version. :) You can use the good one for close-ups if you wish. |
Random person, poorly written note like that, my answer would be a definite no. I probably wouldn't contact him.
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Originally Posted by ascherer
(Post 20395112)
Fair enough:
I'm pretty sure this is a very-very indie shoestring effort. I would not be interested at all if it were a professional film. I'm going to text him and suggest we meet over coffee next week and have him describe his project. As I said, knowing how hard it is for a young artist to get a break, I'm inclined to look for an opportunity to add a little good karma. Trust your gut... |
Originally Posted by noobinsf
(Post 20395158)
Wow, gorgeous bike! That's what he said! :lol:
Originally Posted by noobinsf
(Post 20395158)
Very cool of you to consider this... But yes, don’t feel the least bit guilty for walking away if you get the slightest inkling that it could go wrong, or that you’re just no longer comfortable with the idea. If his artistic impulse can’t survive being denied someone’s prized posession for a prop, then he isn’t cut out to be an auteur anyway. :p
Trust your gut... |
Never loan out bikes, cameras, tools or significant others! :eek:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1deaacfaca.jpg verktyg :50: |
This smells like a broke-ass hipster artist-in-his-own-mind trolling for a free bike to use.
Personally, I'd say "no", but then I'm a grumpy old man who enjoys pissing off hipster kiddies. You can do whatever you want, just don't be surprised if the bike comes back in damaged condition. Or if it doesn't come back at all. Make sure your insurance agent knows about the bike and what you intend. |
I have a bike out on loan as a film prop right now -- but, then again, the amateur filmmaker is my wife's boss, so I feel safe. And the bike needs repainting anyway.
Maybe ask this guy to see some of his other work to see if he's legit? |
Originally Posted by ascherer
(Post 20395112)
Fair enough:
I'm pretty sure this is a very-very indie shoestring effort. I would not be interested at all if it were a professional film. I'm going to text him and suggest we meet over coffee next week and have him describe his project. As I said, knowing how hard it is for a young artist to get a break, I'm inclined to look for an opportunity to add a little good karma. |
I met the young man for lunch yesterday. Very very indie. I'm going to support his project because young folk like this need support and good karma. He needs a few weekend days for studio shots, and one day in Central Park for location shots. I'm welcome at all, but I'll only go to the location shots (I happen to live right on the park). He sent me his script, which I'll read tonight. I'm also going to draft an indemnity agreement. FWIW he rides a very beat-up low-end 80's Peugeot, so points there.
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Originally Posted by ascherer
(Post 20405926)
I met the young man for lunch yesterday. Very very indie. I'm going to support his project because young folk like this need support and good karma. He needs a few weekend days for studio shots, and one day in Central Park for location shots. I'm welcome at all, but I'll only go to the location shots (I happen to live right on the park). He sent me his script, which I'll read tonight. I'm also going to draft an indemnity agreement. FWIW he rides a very beat-up low-end 80's Peugeot, so points there.
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Originally Posted by wrk101
(Post 20394877)
If he wants use of the bike for free, ask if you can borrow some of his cool cameras, or his car for a road trip to Vegas, or whatever.
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Originally Posted by verktyg
(Post 20395293)
Never loan out bikes, cameras, tools or significant others! :eek:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1deaacfaca.jpg verktyg :50: |
Well done ascherer. Impressed with the general opinion, your bike gives an opportunity to meet new people, maybe learn something new and help somebody who likes the thing and can not afford it, however, many are just afraid of new scratches on frame. Sad.
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Originally Posted by ascherer
(Post 20405926)
I met the young man for lunch yesterday. Very very indie. I'm going to support his project because young folk like this need support and good karma. He needs a few weekend days for studio shots, and one day in Central Park for location shots. I'm welcome at all, but I'll only go to the location shots (I happen to live right on the park). He sent me his script, which I'll read tonight. I'm also going to draft an indemnity agreement. FWIW he rides a very beat-up low-end 80's Peugeot, so points there.
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Originally Posted by noobinsf
(Post 20405941)
If this all works out as planned, post a link to the video when it is publicly available! :thumb:
Originally Posted by USAZorro
(Post 20406752)
Cool. Hope his project goes well, and that you reap the karmic benefits. :thumb: You will follow up as it progresses/finishes right? :)
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Originally Posted by thinktubes
(Post 20406689)
....or records.
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Originally Posted by thumpism
(Post 20406134)
Starlets. Hold out for starlets.
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Originally Posted by snoworder
(Post 20406704)
Well done ascherer. Impressed with the general opinion, bike gives an opportunity to meet new people, maybe learn something new and help somebody who likes the thing and can not afford it but most afraid of new scratches on the frame. Sad.
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@ascherer- You’ve already done what I would have recommended. Good karma, kindness, compassion. You’ve done your homework and you’ve decided. Would be nice, when it’s all over to hear your experiences with the whole thing. If something unfortunate happened to your bike, I suspect a bunch of folks on here would help YOU out. |
Originally Posted by noobinsf
(Post 20405941)
if this all works out as planned, post a link to the video when it is publicly available! :thumb:
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[MENTION=94771]ascherer[/MENTION], that's cool! I don't know what the odds of the film maker trashing your bike, but most parts are replaceable. Get an agreement about damage beforehand, and maybe set the rental price properly. Before I met my wife, the Law And Order TV show filmed an episode in the apartment we are currently living in. It has interior bricks walls, and it's in a landmarked former warehouse building. She said they didn't clean up after themselves, but the money was good enough that she didn't mind. Your film maker may not be able to pay you that handsomely, and if so, get an agreement about damage beforehand.
EDIT: Clearly I wrote the above before seeing all the replies. |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 20407156)
[MENTION=94771]ascherer[/MENTION]EDIT: Clearly I wrote the above before seeing all the replies.
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I 'rented' a bike to somebody visiting my city a few months back with the following arrangement: They paid me fair market value for the bike, with the understanding that I'd buy it back a week later for the same price minus $50 if it was in the same condition aside from wear to consumables, but if the bike was damaged it would be theirs to keep. Perhaps that could an option for you if this particular Raleigh isn't your only commuting bike.
edit: oops, like Noglider above I posted without looking at the thread date or other comments (you know, I thought our forum masters were trying to get that 'initial post date' indicator working again after the software update made it disappear - whatever happened to that?) |
Here’s some info about the project: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ka/description |
Originally Posted by lasauge
(Post 20407935)
I thought our forum masters were trying to get that 'initial post date' indicator working again after the software update made it disappear - whatever happened to that?)
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Originally Posted by cb400bill
(Post 20421583)
I kept asking until I got an answer. It won't happen until a future software update. No ETA on that, though.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 20421663)
Grr. I'm not happy about that.
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