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Old 06-18-18, 10:17 AM
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Which Raleigh is this?

I gather it's 1970-1972 but between the steam, chrome socks and lug combination I can't figure out which model from this photo alone.
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Old 06-18-18, 10:19 AM
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Supercourse.
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Old 06-18-18, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by brian3069 View Post
Supercourse.
Thanks! Can you nail down the year based on pic or nah?
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Old 06-18-18, 10:41 AM
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Cursive Raleigh font on the downtube indicates 1970-71, but the original cottered crankset has been replaced.
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
Cursive Raleigh font on the downtube indicates 1970-71, but the original cottered crankset has been replaced.
Looks like anniversary badge on it. If so, narrows it to 1970.
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Old 06-18-18, 10:46 AM
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Looks like anniversary badge on it. If so, narrows it to 1970.
You can see that?!
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You can see that?!
Looking at seat tube.
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Old 06-18-18, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
Looking at seat tube.
That looks like the Carlton racer-dude decal to me:

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Old 06-18-18, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
That looks like the Carlton racer-dude decal to me:

I suppose. Never had a bike with one of those. What years were they on Raleighs? My '71 Competition doesn't have that, but it also doesn't have forged rear dropouts, so might not be the best example to base it on.
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Old 06-18-18, 12:57 PM
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I believe I've seen those Carlton decals on early 70s Super Courses and Intl's. I also think one of the VeloCals sets came with it back when they were selling them. But both my memory and Raleigh's dealing processes could be faulty!
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I believe I've seen those Carlton decals on early 70s Super Courses and Intl's. I also think one of the VeloCals sets came with it back when they were selling them. But both my memory and Raleigh's dealing processes could be faulty!
I can make out that those seem to be on some models in the 1972 catalog. Can't tell one way or the other from the 1971. That said, my G serial Competition (1972) had the later Carlton in the box decal.
Curious to hear back on which this one has. It definitely is a Super Course though.
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Can't tell for sure, but the crank might be a Nervar and it may be the Sport. I have a couple of those. Doesn't appear to have any shifters or derailleurs so no need to worry about breaking a Simplex delrin FD. Most SCs that I've seen had Normandy high flange hubs.

Hard to tell from the one photo, but it looks like it may be in pretty decent shape -- paint, graphics, chrome, Carlton hoods -- maybe better than most.

I'm probably wrong, but looks like what Raleigh called a 21", or 21.5".
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I'm probably wrong, but looks like what Raleigh called a 21", or 21.5".
Yeah 21.5. Next up would be 23.5 which would look much larger. As somebody who rides a 56cm I’m not sure which of those two sizes would be more appropriate for me, as it falls in between.

Will be looking at it tomorrow and will report back with findings. Thanks for the insight all!
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Yeah 21.5. Next up would be 23.5 which would look much larger. As somebody who rides a 56cm I’m not sure which of those two sizes would be more appropriate for me, as it falls in between.

Will be looking at it tomorrow and will report back with findings. Thanks for the insight all!
Clearly a 21.5" (like almost all of mine). Definitely not a Record (or Sports) with Nervex lugs and chrome socks.

The Super Course is not neither the lightest, nor the most refined offering that Raleigh built, but they do have very adaptable and comfortable geometry and make great riders over distance. If you can work out the fit, I think you'll be rather pleased with it.
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Clearly a 21.5" (like almost all of mine). Definitely not a Record with Nervex lugs and chrome socks.

The Super Course is not neither the lightest, nor the most refined offering that Raleigh built, but they do have very adaptable and comfortable geometry and make great riders over distance. If you can work out the fit, I think you'll be rather pleased with it.
I was looking for something to make a classy tourer out of. If the price is right I may go for it.
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You'll find a lot of Super Course fan's saying nice things about them in this thread. Mine is 79 which has a much different geometry than the one in your pic, but I love it. I definitely want to get an early 70's green one when I can. I think they are beautiful.

Show us your Raleigh Super Course!
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I was looking for something to make a classy tourer out of. If the price is right I may go for it.
This model has a lot of things going for it if you find one that fits you and is in good shape.

That said, depending on the type of touring you intend to do, the frame may not have all the braze-ons you are looking for.
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This model has a lot of things going for it if you find one that fits you and is in good shape.

That said, depending on the type of touring you intend to do, the frame may not have all the braze-ons you are looking for.
That makes sense. I shouldn't have said touring. Rather, a bicycle to go rather long distances more comfortably than my around town commuter. 1 rack and a water bottle cage would be sufficient.
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Was able to catch the seller today to check the bike out, although he only had a short window of time so I took it around the block and then snapped some very quick photos. He is asking $150 and given the cosmetics (the photos make it look better than it does) I'll pass. Oh, and the fork/bearing situation looks dangerous...






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Hmm, hand done gold finishes and the wrong Reynolds decal. I agree that something wonky is going on with that headset.
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Hmm, hand done gold finishes and the wrong Reynolds decal. I agree that something wonky is going on with that headset.
Wrong sized bearings?

All-in-all, not too bad - though if I were shopping I'd try to talk the price down. Looks like it was sold by a rather well-known shop.

Polymorphself, are you out west?
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Wrong sized bearings?

All-in-all, not too bad - though if I were shopping I'd try to talk the price down. Looks like it was sold by a rather well-known shop.

Polymorphself, are you out west?
Kind of. Arizona.
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Kind of. Arizona.
Too far away for me. It had crossed my mind briefly.
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But it has a Hans Ohrt shop sticker! Nice upgraded crank, too. Pretty cool bike.
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Isn't the headset just loose? Unthreaded 3-4 turns? The bike is off the ground, so the fork will drop a cm or so and expose the lower bearings.
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