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cmsanfor 06-22-18 04:18 PM

Build Thread! Frenchify-ing a '76 California Masi
 
Hey Guys! So I posted some threads in the sales section of the forum over the last few weeks to get a build going. I have a roughly 1976 Carlsbad Masi Gran Criterium that's been my main road bike for a few years. It was a grail bike for me for a long time, and when I finally picked one up I ended up really loving the ride quality as well. Had it built up with Campy Athena 11 speed parts and 32c tires, and felt like it was the perfect mix of comfortable and quick.

Fast-forward to today, I started taking some framebuilding classes and finally finished my first bike. That will be receiving the components from the Masi, and I'm planning on returning it to a more-or-less period correct state. I decided to go primarily french with the components, because honestly it was just more exciting to me than getting a campy group and calling it a day. I ended up getting a Huret Jubilee derailleur set, some simplex retro-friction shifters, a set of Mafac Competition brakes and levers, and a Stronglight 93 crankset. The bike currently has wheelset with campy 8-speed chorus hubs and pacenti forza rims. Don't know that they'll look the part exactly, but they're great wheels and I figure I'll at least use them for a bit. Planning on running a 13-28t cassette and doing whatever fussing is necessary to make that work with the huret stuff. Chainrings will be 52/38.

Here are some pictures of the bike as it sits, and I'll drop in updates as I finish tidying up new components. Thanks and definitely keep me posted with suggestions!

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3e035e0b57.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7420816067.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b79587f693.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...41087086b0.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...031678a164.jpg

tiger1964 06-22-18 04:51 PM

Neat! France invades Italy -- what's French for Veni, Vedi Vici? :p

Chombi1 06-22-18 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by cmsanfor (Post 20407655)
Hey Guys! So I posted some threads in the sales section of the forum over the last few weeks to get a build going. I have a roughly 1976 Carlsbad Masi Gran Criterium that's been my main road bike for a few years. It was a grail bike for me for a long time, and when I finally picked one up I ended up really loving the ride quality as well. Had it built up with Campy Athena 11 speed parts and 32c tires, and felt like it was the perfect mix of comfortable and quick.

Fast-forward to today, I started taking some framebuilding classes and finally finished my first bike. That will be receiving the components from the Masi, and I'm planning on returning it to a more-or-less period correct state. I decided to go primarily french with the components, because honestly it was just more exciting to me than getting a campy group and calling it a day. I ended up getting a Huret Jubilee derailleur set, some simplex retro-friction shifters, a set of Mafac Competition brakes and levers, and a Stronglight 93 crankset. The bike currently has wheelset with campy 8-speed chorus hubs and pacenti forza rims. Don't know that they'll look the part exactly, but they're great wheels and I figure I'll at least use them for a bit. Planning on running a 13-28t cassette and doing whatever fussing is necessary to make that work with the huret stuff. Chainrings will be 52/38.

Here are some pictures of the bike as it sits, and I'll drop in updates as I finish tidying up new components. Thanks and definitely keep me posted with suggestions!

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3e035e0b57.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7420816067.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b79587f693.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...41087086b0.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...031678a164.jpg


Originally Posted by tiger1964 (Post 20407702)
Neat! France invades Italy -- what's French for Veni, Vedi Vici? :p

No, more like C'est la vie when it comes to the French.....

Salamandrine 06-22-18 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Chombi1 (Post 20407742)
No, more like C'est la vie when it comes to the French.....

:lol: It's true. I've always loved the frenchie stuff and it's great fun, but it's not without issues. Many things are a whole lot less precise and frankly, solid, than campy NR/SR of the same era. For instance, a NR crank and BB will set both cranks exactly the same distance from the chainstays, and the chainline will be spot on. With Stronglight, not so much.:rolleyes: In fact I'd go as far as to recommend a Phil BB so you can dial in the drivetrain. Jubilee derailleurs shift fine. They are more delicate than NR. Chain, freewheel and set up matter most, as usual. It may be pushing it a bit to run a 28t with a short cage. Are those new brakes going to fit? Are they the short reach (39-49) Mafac Competitions? I think Masi was using short reach in 76, though I'm not certain. My 78 uses short.

Ducking and running.

cmsanfor 06-22-18 05:59 PM

Haha, thanks for the comments guys. So far I've been moderately careful about part selection and making sure everything fits. I definitely 100% expect something to go wrong though, good rec on the phil bottom bracket. I'll keep everyone posted with the headaches that ensue!

Classtime 06-22-18 09:26 PM

Who painted your Masi? AND, can we see the new frameset?

shnibop 06-22-18 09:32 PM

A red Masi is at the top of my list. Let a nice one slip through my fingers not long ago. Yours is gorgeous... and my size 😈

SteelCharlie 06-22-18 10:09 PM

Personally, I question your sanity on a number of topics and levels.

cmsanfor 06-22-18 11:46 PM

I think my sanity dissolved past questioning long ago, so let's put that to rest. I honestly don't know who did the repaint on the frame. I bought it off Craigslist in Orange County and the seller suggested that Brian Baylis had done it, but I'm understandably incredulous. Either way it's a lovely paint job, but one that had enough quirks that I've never worried about treating the bike as a rider.

Here are some pics of the frame I built. It's a 650b rando bike that's roughly the same geo as the masi, has a little bit shorter top tube and a little bit longer rake. Like it a lot so far!

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...21698474f8.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3ba3da0e32.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...070458d12f.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...13a8559a50.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1f2d85c0c7.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1e65e1844e.jpg

merziac 06-23-18 02:00 AM


Originally Posted by cmsanfor (Post 20408091)
I think my sanity dissolved past questioning long ago, so let's put that to rest. I honestly don't know who did the repaint on the frame. I bought it off Craigslist in Orange County and the seller suggested that Brian Baylis had done it, but I'm understandably incredulous. Either way it's a lovely paint job, but one that had enough quirks that I've never worried about treating the bike as a rider.

Here are some pics of the frame I built. It's a 650b rando bike that's roughly the same geo as the masi, has a little bit shorter top tube and a little bit longer rake. Like it a lot so far!

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...21698474f8.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3ba3da0e32.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...070458d12f.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...13a8559a50.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1f2d85c0c7.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1e65e1844e.jpg

Well I'm just going to come right out and say that you've done a great job on the new frame and with the canti/rando/vibe thing going on it is screaming at me for the vintage Stronlight/Huret/ etc. program in bare metal. :thumb:

Classtime 06-23-18 07:37 AM

Very very cool. Love every bit of it--lugs, fork crown, seat cluster all classy.

ExPatTyke 06-24-18 02:02 AM

Is this the frame featured in the thread on here? Very nice work, I'm very impressed.

rocks in head 08-01-18 02:32 PM

Hi, wishing you good build progress, and pictures.

CroMo Mike 08-01-18 03:49 PM

Great workmanship on that new frame! Are you going to paint it?

If that red Masi were mine, it would end up in period-correct Campy Record; I just can't help myself.


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