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Old 07-09-18, 07:50 AM
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Score this amazing deal this Tuesday for $20! 1984 Cannondale SR900 full Campagnolo Nuovo Record asking was $10, I ask them to hold the bike for me for a extra $20.
really need new hoods and a lubricant of all the parts. Other then that, I think this bike is a crazy deal


WOW! That is a screaming, unbelievable deal. Congrats!

I picked up this Cannondale on CL and I think I'll give it a go in the clunker challenge. I need to get a new derailleur cable and reattach the shifter, put on pedals, but other than that it's in ready to ride condition.
Purchase price: $60
Pedals from local co-op: $11
Shifter Cable: $4
Shifter boss and screw (from personal parts stash): $2?

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I think previously we allowed for removable accessories while riding for practical purposes as long as you present the bike without them for final judging consideration.
Fair enough thanks!
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already riding? dang. today I spread the Raleigh's wings!



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Well, I wrapped up the Monkey Wards bike last weekend, and took it for a spin around the house today to see what needed sorting.
1) tighten handlebar clamp
2) adjust front brake
3) won't drop into smallest gear easily, so it's effectively a 4-speed. I won't bother adjusting because if you're pedaling in that gear it's already too fast for the brakes to stop effectively.

Surprisingly good gearing to get up a little hill or two.

Racked up 0.8 miles... 1.3% done!
I plan to ride it down to the ballpark for better shots, hopefully some evening with better light. I took a few in the alley beside my house, but mid-day full sun isn't the best for pictures.

Also, @Narhay I picked this bike up on 6/23 and had started taking it apart and cleaning it by 6/29. Is that close enough to be acceptable for the challenge? I'm thinking I can do something else if so. Houdaille Powercam? That would be a unique ride for the challenge.

Oh, the pictures...







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Old 07-09-18, 12:48 PM
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Hmmm... this is a fun sounding, and very tempting challenge. As it is, Iíve come into two potential entries recently should I choose to play along.

The first is a complete, and original Ď71 UO-8 bought less than two weeks ago for $80. Itís a rider as is despite needing a little TLC.

Then there is the Raleigh frame I bought for $25 this past weekend. No positive ID on it yet as itís been repainted, and is missing itís decals. Gut feeling is that itís an early Ď70s Super Course. I might be able to utilize derailleurs, a saddle, a set of brakes, a couple of rims, and possibly a FW and crankset I salvaged for free last year. Iíll definitely need to procure tires, shift levers, a seat post, stem, bars, and cables. The question is if I can build it within budget should some of the parts on hand not work out, and still chalk the kilometers in time for the Oct. 11th deadline. Iíve never built a bike other than a Schwinn cruiser before so building this frame would be uncharted territory for me. Iím confident I can pull it off, but will it be soon enough?

Hmmm... Iím really thinking about it!
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Old 07-09-18, 01:52 PM
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Oh What A Tangled Web The Web Weaves...

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I'm honored for the mention...

That was my first spare from 1974. I just started ridding sewups and it was sort of a Mean Joe Green Coke Commercial moment. An "old" hot shot racer was walking away after a race and he threw it at me and said "Here kid patch this and you'll have a spare" or something like that.

I was 30 and at least 5 years older than him but I was a starving student at the time! I used it for a year or so and kept patching side wall nicks. It's a Clement 50 and STILL holds air!

...

You could use a strip of Tyvek plastic from a USPS mailing envelope instead of fabric. Thin flexible and super tough. Use contact cement... Oh but that's $3+ dollars!

I carry several strips in my under seat tool bags in case I ever have to boot a clincher. Works better than a dollar bill!

I also use Tyvek to boot side wall nicks except on the inside of the clincher casing. I glue them in with some contact cement.

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I too have used Tyvek to mend a rent in a clincher tube. I've also used coroplast, specifically a section of a political campaign sign, as it presented at the time. Also, coroplast is great. Origami kayaks can be fashioned from it!

However, to mend the high thread count exterior sidewall, I'm thinking a permeable fabric may be better suited to the task. In my researches on this subject, I came across this article suggesting cyclocross tubular users treat their fabric sidewalls with a urethane tent sealer. Seems a sensible solution? Leads me to consider a permeable fabric such as silk, combined with a urethane glue may work to repair compromised fabric sidewalls? A very old school technique for sealing skin, and wood framed, and wooden vessels was to glue fabric to the hull, or stretched across a frame, then paint it with a waterproof oil based paint. Living by the seaside I dabble in seacraft construction. I have a few urethane glues. I think silk may be the best option, as its strength increases with wetting.

So far, you are the only one I've discovered who has a documented long term example of an effective sidewall tubular repair. Kudos.

I think this discussion may merit its own thread? (See what I did there?)

(At the end of the aforementioned article is the teaser: "...donít miss our exclusive tips that involve a similar technique to seal your cycling shorts to keep your chamois dry throughout a wet cyclocross race." I always suggest that those new to distance riding rip out the chamois, or wear it inside out, thus achieving "Baboon Butt", which was all the fashion at this year's TABR. I'll spare you photos.)
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Setting The Bar Low

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Don't die on those patched tubulars. If you buy 3 new tires but only use 2 the cost is $33.33.
People are always saying "Be careful out there!" or "Ride safe!" or some other well intentioned suggestion. I know they mean well.

My response now is my signature line below.

If I were to have a tombstone, which I won't, my epitaph would have to read: "He Tried Not To Die".

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Old 07-09-18, 04:56 PM
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My neighbor pulled this old Varsity out from the weeds in their backyard and gave it to me, so I guess that means I'm in!



With a free frame, I might be able to build up a rat-rod concept I've had kicking around for a while for under $100: 26" wheels, 2-speed kickback hub, whitewalls and torpedo grips.
Or I could just get it rolling as-is, and try to spend as little as possible.
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Scrubbed up the crank in the kitchen sink last night, didn't get caught. Rusty bolts are soaking. Front chain guard too bent up to use, tossed it in the recycle. Got cable set yesterday for $9.00. Tires didn't assplode, so should be able to start assembling as time permits. Running total: Bike, $16.00, bearing balls, $1.00+/-, cable kit, $9.00
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Oh.

This thread again.

Maybe this will be the year I can actually get it together enough to:
a) decide on a bike and enter it
b) build it to completion
c) ride it the distance required

I have options.

1) Mid 90's Schwinn Transit hybrid bike. Paid $35, needs new grips, seat, and brake cables/pads. Rear wheel also horrifically out of true, found out it was because several drive side spokes have decided their preferred state is shrapnel. As in, several more broke when I was attempting to loosen up adjacent spokes. I either need to relace the rear wheel or find a compatible one. Is a size too large for me.

2) Mid 90's Fuji BLVD-XC MTB. Pulled out of trashpile a little over a year ago. All parts are there and original to the bike, except for the seat. It's the largest, squishiest, widest seat I've ever seen. All parts need a complete disassembly and disinfection, and new cables, chain and pads. Also too small for me by several sizes. Also has GripShift, which I've never worked on.

3) Late 80's - early 90's Raleigh Eclipse hybrid. Pulled out of trashpile in the last year or two. Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket and cranks are present, everything else is gone. Frame and fork are 100% 4130 CrMo, so yay. Cranks are BioPace. Double Yay!

4) 1994 Diamondback Viper 20" BMX bike. Pulled out of trashpile many years ago, fixed up, given to a neighborhood kid, then given back to me when he outgrew it. I had actually entered this in a previous clunker challenge. It is presently completely disassembled. I stopped building it the last time around because the fork threads are stripped. I'd need to repair or replace the fork and get new tires, tubes, freewheel and a chain.

I'm leaning to the Schwinn as the most realistic candidate for a build. It'll be a bonus if I can get the other bikes build up to the point where I can unload them, let alone ride them for 62 miles.
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Well, I wrapped up the Monkey Wards bike last weekend, and took it for a spin around the house today to see what needed sorting.
1) tighten handlebar clamp
2) adjust front brake
3) won't drop into smallest gear easily, so it's effectively a 4-speed. I won't bother adjusting because if you're pedaling in that gear it's already too fast for the brakes to stop effectively.

Surprisingly good gearing to get up a little hill or two.

Racked up 0.8 miles... 1.3% done!
I plan to ride it down to the ballpark for better shots, hopefully some evening with better light. I took a few in the alley beside my house, but mid-day full sun isn't the best for pictures.

Also, @Narhay I picked this bike up on 6/23 and had started taking it apart and cleaning it by 6/29. Is that close enough to be acceptable for the challenge? I'm thinking I can do something else if so. Houdaille Powercam? That would be a unique ride for the challenge.

Oh, the pictures...






how many stone does this weigh?
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Old 07-14-18, 07:33 AM
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(Being from New Zealand my budget is as of today 15/7/2018 is to be $147nz converted from $100usd via Themoneyconverter.com)
So I will enter the GT MTB I picked up on holiday a week ago, I bought it on an auction site in New Zealand called Trade me, cost was $25nz, it was owned by a guy on a farm, he used it for getting around the farm, he gave me a rear rack and some old pannier bags too as he did not want to go through the hassle of trying to sell them, I offered him $10nz extra which he would not take. So I will class those items as another $10(?) bringing the purchase cost up to $35nz.

The Rockshox fork was seized, this was the first on the list, so I have swapped out the fork for one off a Giant Yukon that I bought off the same site for $30 frame/fork/headset, (so I am classing the fork as $10nz, bringing the total to $45nz), the previous seller had removed the(stuck quill stem)stem and installed a quill adaptor, then installing a very short A head stem, I have changed this out for the worst condition stems I have(calling it $5) but at least of the needed length, next I freed up the stuck seat post with lube and brute force, and then got to work on the stuck B.B. which ended with bolting Park tools BBT-32 onto B.B. axle and using a cheater bar, B.B. ended up being the (bizarre!) sealed non drive side fixed cup B.B. of the mid 90s, this I will replace post challenge.
BB threads have been chased with my tap.
With the frame now “rag polished” I will start with the rebuild, with the fork conversion now back to rigid I am wanting to do a “Do it all” type build.

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(Being from New Zealand my budget is as of today 15/7/2018 is to be $147nz converted from $100usd via Themoneyconverter.com)
So I will enter the GT MTB I picked up on holiday a week ago, I bought it on an auction site in New Zealand called Trade me, cost was $25nz, it was owned by a guy on a farm, he used it for getting around the farm, he gave me a rear rack and some old pannier bags too as he did not want to go through the hassle of trying to sell them, I offered him $10nz extra which he would not take. So I will class those items as another $10(?) bringing the purchase cost up to $35nz.

The Rockshox fork was seized, this was the first on the list, so I have swapped out the fork for one off a Giant Yukon that I bought off the same site for $30 frame/fork/headset, (so I am classing the fork as $10nz, bringing the total to $45nz), the previous seller had removed the(stuck quill stem)stem and installed a quill adaptor, then installing a very short A head stem, I have changed this out for the worst condition stems I have(calling it $5) but at least of the needed length, next I freed up the stuck seat post with lube and brute force, and then got to work on the stuck B.B. which ended with bolting Park tools BBT-32 onto B.B. axle and using a cheater bar, B.B. ended up being the (bizarre!) sealed non drive side fixed cup B.B. of the mid 90s, this I will replace post challenge.
BB threads have been chased with my tap.
With the frame now ďrag polishedĒ I will start with the rebuild, with the fork conversion now back to rigid I am wanting to do a ďDo it allĒ type build.

Ohh another weakness GT's

got any pics to post?
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Im in, Just picked up this 1988 Schwinn LeTour on CL. for $50, as she sat she was functional but not fabulous.

Late 80's Schwinn
Tru Temper Frame, Suntour command shifters..
.....whats not to like...that stem/bar setup. Hopefully i can cover a upgrade for the bars / stem if not i will keep with the bullhorns.

was thinking about keeping the Suntour command shifters on it but the rear one does not seem to be right and am having a hard time finding rebuilding info on them. especially now that its in pieces in a bag, and looks like the indexing balls are missing.




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Im in, Just picked up this 1988 Schwinn LeTour on CL. for $50, as she sat she was functional but not fabulous.

Late 80's Schwinn
Tru Temper Frame, Suntour command shifters..
.....whats not to like...that stem/bar setup. Hopefully i can cover a upgrade for the bars / stem if not i will keep with the bullhorns.

was thinking about keeping the Suntour command shifters on it but the rear one does not seem to be right and am having a hard time finding rebuilding info on them. especially now that its in pieces in a bag, and looks like the indexing balls are missing.
I bought the same model last spring and it has become one of my favorite rides. I put on a taller stem (Soma Sutro) to bring the bars up a bit and added a B17. With Paslea tires, it handles chip seal and broken pavement like a Cadillac, while still being quick enough to hang with the other old guys in the weekly club ride.
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how many stone does this weigh?
I don't know... we got rid of the old-school bathroom scale that uses a good old fashioned spring, and I discovered the batteries had turned into powder inside the fancy digital scale. So, I actually never weighed it.
I turned it into $100 this afternoon, after only riding it 8.8 miles. So, it won't be my C&V 100 entry after all. Garage space is premium, we have a new double stroller we have to park in there, takes up the space of N-2 bikes. Contest entry TBD, but unlikely. Maybe I'll be getting to the Gitane next summer...

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I bought the same model last spring and it has become one of my favorite rides. I put on a taller stem (Soma Sutro) to bring the bars up a bit and added a B17. With Paslea tires, it handles chip seal and broken pavement like a Cadillac, while still being quick enough to hang with the other old guys in the weekly club ride.
Thanks

I have been wanting a late 80's Schwinn for awhile. i found this one and it is a solid rider the cable housing were good and some cables were good so i might just have to get 2 cables and some drop bars for it

After im done with the C&V challenge it will prob get some upgrades if i like it enough!
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Might do a 2nd entry this year, picked up this little "lump of coal" a couple days ago while buying a bike for our future daughter-in-law. It's a BCA Citicross that I believe is an early 90's "hybrid". I plan to make it functional and if I can keep it within the Challenge $100 budget limit I'll try getting 100Km on it after I finish with the Fuji. It has a 3 X 7 Shimano 200GS drivetrain except for the Exage 300LX rear derailleur and 27 inch wheels. It has a Tange Seamless Cr-Mo sticker on but as heavy as it is I'm skeptical on it being original to the bike. It has been exposed to the elements so it will be getting an oxalic acid bath then clear coated. I paid $20 for it, probably a bit much but it has at least $20 worth of good parts on it. It originally had 27 X 1-3/8" gumwall knobbies, I have a pair of new Kenda 27 X 1-3/8" gumwall knobbies I bought for something else but never used. I went back and checked, I paid $25.90 for both tires. It's going to need cables, brake pads and a chain for sure but I have usable used cables, a used chain and some cheapo brake pads. I think I can refurbish everything else. Other than some corrosion on the zinc plated spokes the wheels are pretty good, they spin true and the hubs feel smooth.



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Got the clunker cobbled together enough for a shake down ride this afternoon on the local MUP. Made it about about six miles in agony due to this squishy Bell "saddle". I have a couple hopefully less hatchetarian throw away saddles to try. Weighs 29 pounds as it sits, about 10 pounds lighter than my regular rider. Shifts decent, stops when I need it to.
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Got in my second ride on Barney, about 20km with my siblings while in Spokane visiting my Mom for her birthday.

For a bike I have done almost zero to he has performed admirably.

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After days of playing phone tag with one of the property managers for one of our local colleges, I was given a tour of their junkyard. Amidst the weathered Huffys and Magnas there was this blue mystery Trek lying in the weeds. It was weathered, scuffed and rusty, with a bottle cage cruelly zip-tied to the seat tube, but it was also my size, and ever since this thread launched, I've wanted to use it as a flimsy excuse to pick up an additional bicycle. I surrendered a 5 dollar bill and I loaded the Trek into my car.

Once I got it home I looked up the serial number here: Vintage Trek Bicycle Frame Serial Numbers, bike and found out it was a 22.5" framed 1980-81 Trek 412 or 414 (my guess is 1981 Trek 412). I did some more inspecting and found the badly peeling dealer sticker was from Bike Country Center in Armonk, NY- quite a distance from where it ended up in Minnesota. I thought the pedals were interesting: Shimano FullFit PD-A100. They're weighted at the bottom so the platforms always face up. The only references to them I could find online were on a Japanese auction listing and a Thai mtb site. The rack is a Blackburn that would look nicer without its faded-to-matte-black paint.

I did some surface level cleaning and light maintenance yesterday. Luckily for me, the stem was only mildly stuck, and getting the rusty seatpost binder bolt to loosen was tougher than getting the actual post to move. The Imron paint is rough, which is a shame since it's such a pretty metallic blue. I thought Goof Off would get the decal residue on the down tube to wipe right off, but there's a stubborn film of it I'll have to scrape.

Next will be to figure out if I can use the rear wheel or if I'll have to source another. Then buy tires and a chain.

Please excuse the grainy pics from my garbage phone. As purchased:

It's no $20 Cannondale with full Campy, but it'll do.

The nettle hanging off the RD cable was free!

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I've been keeping an eye out for a junky find like my last year's clunker entry. But this Raleigh 460 Technium fell into my lap a few days ago. A neighbor friend gave it to me before he moved away. It's not in the worst shape but it needs a complete overhaul, but it happens to be my size so I'm not complaining. I want to take this opportunity to convert this into a city bike with porteur handebars. I currently only have bikes with drop bars, so this will be fun. Need to look for new levers too.

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Originally Posted by fleslider View Post
Ohh another weakness GT's

got any pics to post?
Hi @fleslider , only pics I have are not terribly clear,







Pic of it against a house is original Auction picture, the fork replacement, and B.B. thread chasing, will have the pannier rack on this weekend, and get the bike finished up. Post challenge I may even get this one powder coated.

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I'd like to call this finished now.

It's still a clunker as it makes a clunking noise at times when in motion. Sometimes it's more of a clinking noise. It comes from the front wheel but I am not sure exactly where. The wheels were out of true and this was my first attempt at truing wheels, so it's probably related to that.

There's no front derailleur because the clamp on cable stop only has the right hand stop.

The brake bridge has this tube running through it, and I don't know if it's original or a modification made by the previous owner.



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