Bottle Cages... A zit on the Mona Lisa
08-24-18, 07:15 AM
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When I look at a fame, I see it as a sculpture and water bottle cages just ruin that look. Accessory add-ons at best.
For the longest times I never installed them but this year I started doing two plus hours rides and they became an unnecessary evil.
For the longest times I never installed them but this year I started doing two plus hours rides and they became an unnecessary evil.
08-24-18, 07:41 AM
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08-24-18, 07:49 AM
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My sentiments exactly. What I didn't photograph last night was my '85 Super Course, which currently resides in the back seat of my truck. As the rotational winner this month, its got a black wire evil add on currently.
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I like nice metal cages on any bike, stainless or colored to match the bike in some form. The problem for me is the vintage style cages don't hold a big enough bottle as I drink a lot when I ride, I am going to get a camelback hydro pac soon. I have C Dale insulated cooler rack mounted bags on most of my bikes that I ride and can fit extra in it when going on a longer ride, even add ice to it once in a while.
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08-24-18, 08:05 PM
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If the bike is hung as art (re: Mona Lisa) I'll pull the cage(s). But I live in the desert and am a fan of not dying during an otherwise awesome ride, so the cages stay.
I still haven't mounted these though...
...Sure, they'll add another 5-6 kph to my average speed, but the noise is super irritating on my otherwise silent bike.
I still haven't mounted these though...
...Sure, they'll add another 5-6 kph to my average speed, but the noise is super irritating on my otherwise silent bike.
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08-24-18, 10:01 PM
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And you know....Mona Lisa isnt' that hot herself IMHO. Most bikes with bottle cages look a lot better to me than she does. Just sayin'....
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They go in my front baskets on my cruisers. I don't leave home without the bottle.
I think I've posted that picture 4-5 times now but it answers a lot of questions. That and I'm very proud of Darla!
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08-26-18, 12:25 AM
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Very cool enroute hardware for sure guys! Eons better than the Blackburn pimple I run.
08-26-18, 01:14 AM
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I brought a new bike home today. As you can see I was preparing to swap the plastic platform pedals out for caged quills..,
But in the process, off came two huge reflectors, and... a bottle cage.
I prefer simplicity, and clean lines. If I need water for a long ride, it’s easy enough to install a cage on occasion for that purpose.
But in the process, off came two huge reflectors, and... a bottle cage.
I prefer simplicity, and clean lines. If I need water for a long ride, it’s easy enough to install a cage on occasion for that purpose.
08-26-18, 05:47 AM
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I'm also glad to see that the rail trail owners around the region are installing more water bottle fillers at the water fountain locations. Much easier now to refill along the way. Great to reduce the use of disposable bottles and to keep my bottle filled. Less need for the second cage.
I also much prefer to not stop to drink, keep going. A bottle in my jersey pocket or out of reach or one with a fussy valve would not do. Flip the cap and glug a few ounces while maintaining cadence is the way to go.
08-26-18, 06:05 AM
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Cages really don't bother me too much - with one exception: Does anyone remember the handlebar/stem - mounted Blackburn cage? It had a flimsy mounting plate to "secure" against the underside of the stem? I had one years ago and 10 miles into a Century ride (LAW - when they still were LAW - used to run them on Long Island in Septembers) - it ejected my bottle on a rough section of road. I stopped, went back and could not find it. After that, I stuck with one frame-mounted cage and the jersey pocket on longer rides.
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It's obvious.
My 1981/2 Bianchi: since it has a pair of bottle cage zits on the downtube, I put a (celeste-colored Bianchi) water bottle there, just as several of you did in the photos you attached.
1959 Capo with professional repaint: the obvious solution was handlebar mounts, a modern interpretation of a period-correct location. (Works even better since I subsequently shortened the brake cables.)
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To me bottle cages are as essential as a saddle. Maybe if my bike hung on a wall I'd see if differently but for me they are all there to be used as intended.
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Beautiful.
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I take the bottle to the convenience store/gas station, get a soda or water, I'm happy and have whitewalls. They fit into the back of the basket, I tape them in and replace the tape now and then, and I can't reach down and chew gum at the same time, it has to be upright.
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I restored a 1955 Freddie Grubb Meteor in two tone blue. Frame was modified to take bottle holder bolted direct to frame. Found a matching blue carbon holder which in my view looks great with or without the bottle.
1955 Freddie Grubb with matching blue bottle holder.
1955 Freddie Grubb with matching blue bottle holder.
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1985 Eddy
My 1985 Eddy has the same cages that were placed on it the day we pieced together the bike. It's beautiful, blends nicely, compliments the usefulness of how the bike is/was used and I still ride it today in 2018, so I need to carry water bottles.
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Huh, I’ve never really thought about them. If they are a rusted mess, they get pulled, if they’re in good shape they stay. Good place for a speaker!
i use them sometimes but they’re small, water gets warm, and they get covered in road grit. Camel back all the way for me. Mine is insulated so I throw in some ice, water, just a touch of lemon. They get emptied and stored in the freezer so they don’t get gross between uses. Works a treat.
i use them sometimes but they’re small, water gets warm, and they get covered in road grit. Camel back all the way for me. Mine is insulated so I throw in some ice, water, just a touch of lemon. They get emptied and stored in the freezer so they don’t get gross between uses. Works a treat.
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The OP is obviously not looking at the right cages.
Old school
Frejus 44 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Frejus 01 by iabisdb, on Flickr
New school
Cinelli XCR with Super Record 018 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Cinelli XCR with Super Record 021 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Old school
Frejus 44 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Frejus 01 by iabisdb, on Flickr
New school
Cinelli XCR with Super Record 018 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Cinelli XCR with Super Record 021 by iabisdb, on Flickr
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Some cages look good and some just don't.
I always liked the very simple, no nonsense look of Blackburn Competition cages since I started buying them in the mid 80's Still use them on 2/3rds of my bikes.
The older cages by makers like REG have that older world look that fits right in with early 80's and earlier bikes.
I di not like the looks if modern cages that sometimes have amorphous shapes with their bent rods looping at each side of the cages in shapes that do not seem to relate as well with the shape of the bottles or anything on the bike for that matter. The side load cages also look kinda weird
The cages from Cuissi seem to work quite nice with their side buttons that give them a bit more charcter than most other cages from their time,but I never got to try them on any of my bikes yet.
the modern composite cages from Specialized look pretty nice and seem to function well but I think they would look mostly lost on C&V bikes with their very modern (Manga like?) dynamic shapes.
I think I'll just stay with my Blackburns or any other similarly shaped cages for that matter.....
I always liked the very simple, no nonsense look of Blackburn Competition cages since I started buying them in the mid 80's Still use them on 2/3rds of my bikes.
The older cages by makers like REG have that older world look that fits right in with early 80's and earlier bikes.
I di not like the looks if modern cages that sometimes have amorphous shapes with their bent rods looping at each side of the cages in shapes that do not seem to relate as well with the shape of the bottles or anything on the bike for that matter. The side load cages also look kinda weird
The cages from Cuissi seem to work quite nice with their side buttons that give them a bit more charcter than most other cages from their time,but I never got to try them on any of my bikes yet.
the modern composite cages from Specialized look pretty nice and seem to function well but I think they would look mostly lost on C&V bikes with their very modern (Manga like?) dynamic shapes.
I think I'll just stay with my Blackburns or any other similarly shaped cages for that matter.....