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Old 08-23-18, 02:43 PM
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I never gave bottle cages much thought, but on a hot day, I'm glad they're there. Here's mine. No idea who made the one on the Legnano bars, had it forever. The Raleigh one is marked Arundel, a swap meet find. On really hot days I use the REI clamp on mount for an extra bottle, which is pretty ugly.



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Originally Posted by non-fixie
Looking at that picture, I think I may have misunderstood the meaning of "water".
I keep forgetting that cyclists in the heroic era didn't need to replace their electrolytes. My "water" isn't period correct. Neither is my rear derailleur cage. I realize the judges will deduct points for these things. This bike does have excellently vintage bosses for the bottle cage though.



Too bad they're covered up by my unsightly modern bottle.
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I can certainly agree that clamp-on bottle cages are ugly. I've been looking for a solution to this problem. So far the only solution I've been happy with is having @gugie braze on bosses and having the bike repainted. That's not a particularly scalable solution. I had high hopes for the King Cage hose clamp solution, but the clamps are still very visible. Maybe if I can apply touch up paint to match them to a bike I'll be satisfied.

I do kind of like the Showers Pass option that @rhm shared.
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So we’re not appropriately C&V if we actually need a water bottle or two on a ride? I certainly would not have wanted be without both of mine on this C&V group ride last month:

Finally the Palouse area (WA state) adventure ride

My cages are stainless King Cages. They look and work just fine, IMHO. And the Camelbak 4X insulated bottles may not look perfect, but they keep the contents colder much longer than others. Bonus points to @Andy_K for color-matching the bottle contents to the frame.



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Camelback for me -- almost every ride and every situation --- enough water to keep a fat Clydesdale hydrated, plus room for keys, tools, tubes, phones, headphones, pocket knife, a small selection of first aid supplies etc.
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Originally Posted by Dfrost
So we’re not appropriately C&V if we actually need a water bottle or two on a ride? I certainly would not have wanted be without both of mine on this C&V group ride last month:

Finally the Palouse area (WA state) adventure ride

My cages are stainless King Cages. They look and work just fine, IMHO. And the Camelbak 4X insulated bottles may not look perfect, but they keep the contents colder much longer than others. Bonus points to @Andy_K for color-matching the bottle contents to the frame.

+1 on the Camelbak insulated bottles. They are my favorite after trying a few. Mostly I like the fast flowing valve that you can flip open. Great design. Insulation works pretty well too, at least for the first part of a ride. They could work a bit on the ugly. I like my King cages too.

I used to like those SOMA crystal bottles, because no taste and they look pretty good and semi retro. However, the valves are hard to open and slow flowing, and the tops don't prevent fruit flies from crawling in during the summer. Not sure how they manage this, but it's gross. Also, they fly out of cages easier than other bottles.

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What’s a man to do???

5 of mine have no bottle bosses !!!

Of all the doo-dads I want, 4 bolt-on cage holders is not highly listed - given alternative desires.

I have an under-utilized camelback or preferably, the vintage cyclist vintage wax cotton vest/backpack to simplify the ‘12 vintage roadie seatbag dilemma’ that haunts every owner of tubular/clincher/27”/Schrader/presta/700c/650b wheels.

Even with a bottle cage, the vest quickly adapts to needed 'stuff'.



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How many of you guys remember the Rhode Gear cageless water bottles and their low profile black nylon mounting brackets? I bought one back around 1979 when my Bridgestone/Kabuki was new. They were brilliant, and I wish I could get a replacement one! Back then, most bikes didn’t have braze-ons and nost water bottle cages were dreadful chromed steel junk, designed to clamp on... but their hardware would rust and the clamps would marr paint. The slick nylon Rhode Gear bracket solved those problems and also almost disappeared when not in use. Bottle mounted to it via a wedge shaped appendage. Main problems: proprietary bottle wasn’t very squeezable and also didn’t have enough UV resistance.
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Originally Posted by rhm
The thing you see attached behind the saddle is a https://www.showerspass.com/products...dration-system. Disregard the cable lock. The hydration tube is strapped to the top tube and the brake cables, so I can drink while riding. It's a pretty cool system, though too complicated.

So the next thing is an oxygen canister, and a catheter bag hung from the top tube. Oh, and a motor powered by lithium batteries -- a two-wheeled marauding wheelchair. "I'll stop riding the bike when they pry it from . . ."



Relative to OP's gripe: classic to me is the venerable TA bottle cage, either band-on or braze-on mounted. Agree that plastic ones make my skin crawl. Some of the more expensive metal ones are OK.
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Originally Posted by Dfrost
My cages are stainless King Cages.
Perfect.

My only problem is I can't run two bottles at the same time:

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Some might say there are other accessories, harder to carry on oneself than water, that add to elegance.



And it's one dialed ride, too!
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Water bottles cages are essential and I actually think this particular Zéfal classic water adds to the classic frame appearance while adding to its utility.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
I can certainly agree that clamp-on bottle cages are ugly. I've been looking for a solution to this problem. So far the only solution I've been happy with is having @gugie braze on bosses and having the bike repainted. That's not a particularly scalable solution. I had high hopes for the King Cage hose clamp solution, but the clamps are still very visible. Maybe if I can apply touch up paint to match them to a bike I'll be satisfied.

I do kind of like the Showers Pass option that @rhm shared.
On the green Super Course above, when I had it painted, it needed several braze ons done, so I added bottle mount bosses on the down tube, thinking that would be enough. I didn't want to disturb the Carlton decal and stripes on the seat tube. After realizing how much fun this bike is to ride, I should have added a second set. All I can say good about the REI mount is that it has a thick rubber pad that protects the paint, and it is reversible 90° for handlebar mount, which is even uglier. I do like the leather padded Zefal on the blue Peugeot above. I'm building a gold Pug PY10 (?) than might look good with those. The gold paint is nearly pristine. Is there a way to add screw thread bosses without a repaint?

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Originally Posted by greg3rd48

Water bottles cages are essential and I actually think this particular Zéfal classic water adds to the classic frame appearance while adding to its utility.
The Zefal reissues are pretty nice. We're lucky to have them. Chrome quality is not the greatest, but good enough. Buy some spares.
Looking good on my Peugeot.

My favorite cage was the old style single clip TA. I had one on my first PX-10, and I still miss it.


I live in a semi desert. Water bottles are required.

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very nice
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Alright, I want to clarify that I am not questioning anyone's C&V worthyness (how that was construed was a head scratcher) by running vintage bottle cages. I use them when actively riding a bike, but for storage/display purposes, I think empty cages just take away from the beauty of a bike (and my plastic bottles are REALLY not sexy). I do have to admit I'm digging a few of those cages more though. Oh, I put the bolts back into the frame when not holding cages, and they all live inside in So. Cal..
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Originally Posted by La Brea Bike
(and my plastic bottles are REALLY not sexy)
So get some better-looking bottles.

Also, considering that this is an aesthetic criticism thread, are you going to post some photos describing your bicycles' ugly cage situation or what?
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Here's an example of my situation. There is no situation.
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Originally Posted by La Brea Bike
There is no situation.
I'm not sure I agree. You're concerned about the aesthetics of empty bottle cages, but you're using socket cap bolts on empty bosses. Those things draw way more attention to themselves than well-selected empty cages do!

If I was so against empty cages that I removed them between rides, I'd at least use button-head bolts or something to cover up the bosses.
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Originally Posted by thinktubes
Vintage cages don't bother me. Like the Cussi Inox as well.

I'm guessing the OP is citing the current crop of plastic, sculptural cages. There's a time and place for everything.
For the bikes with braze on mounts, the Cussi Inox look the part even if they are not vintage.
For bikes without... Period TA, Steel or aluminum. Way Way back on my first road bike I went with the TA Criterium cage as it only used one band clamp.

I also have a bike with a pair of King ti cages... I forget what I paid (on Purpose)
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Originally Posted by HTupolev
Those things draw way more attention to themselves than well-selected empty cages do!
To each their own I guess. I'm more comfortable with my hideous bolt heads... Give my regards to rest of the folks at the bottle cage factory .
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I don't like or use cages, either. Prefer to carry a water bottle in my jersey pocket.
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A road bike without bottle cage is like a car without gas tank.
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Originally Posted by BritishV8
dreadful chromed steel junk, designed to clamp on... but their hardware would rust
That's fair. In many cases, a bike with otherwise exquisite components (i.e.: Brev Camp) would be let down by a $2.99 water bottle cage.

I had a cage break a couple of months back, picked up at the LBS a nice one in stainless steel, I don't think there's a name on it... should last a long time. This is on the only bike I own new enough to have bosses.
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Originally Posted by Giuanin
A road bike without bottle cage is like a car without gas tank.
Agreed, but some people have old cars they never drive. There is absolutely no need for a gas tank on a car you don't drive. Could 'splode or something, probably safer to remove it.
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