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Old 09-01-18, 11:59 AM
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Peugeot 753 build suggestions?

So at some point the blue lion will join me in the S of France. I know myself fairly well and the first thing I'll want to do is build it with whatever is to hand, and ride it. As I probably have a week or two (most likely more) I may as well start looking at what I would like to see hung on it on a more permanent basis. I've looked at full record/chorus groupsets and they are somewhat above my budget. I think I want to go brifters and quality wheels, but even that isn't set in stone. It's not far off Eroica age so I could do that but I have 2 Eroica ready bikes at least. All French? Era correct Campag (€€€!)? As modern and high end as I can?
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What a beautiful one!
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Beautiful Peugeot frameset!
I've been watching out for one of those to add to my Peugeot stable, but those are just too rare to find here in the US. Not sure if Peugeot was even still around here when they sold those bikes....
I was also thinking that it would be hard to build up a Chorus model Peugeot without feeling that I would have to build it as such, if I ever luck out and find a Chorus frame for myself.
All French for a frameset of that level will mean something like Mavic SSC, and that also means similar cost to Campy Chorus, or higher, depending on the condition of the SSC group you might find. That is the dilemma with going into top of the line C&V bikes. Doing a complete, period and model level build just takes lot of money to do.
you can consider going with Campy Athena or the non-SSC Mavic group and save a bit, but they will still be on the expensive side, compared to something like a Shimano 105 group..
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all about budget innit? I'd be very very tempted to try to go full Mavic on that frame. if I could afford it.

on the other hand, my Look kg96 has tricolor 8 speed shimano, and its amazing- could not ask for anything better and would never change it. (also the grey matches the cf so .. ). but if someone offered me SSC mavic... id be tempted for sure!
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Oi!, that's he first bike I have seen that used the same crankset as I did with my PY10FC build!......

But I thunk the carbon laminated big ring looks more at home on a CF bike?
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all about budget innit? I'd be very very tempted to try to go full Mavic on that frame. if I could afford it.

on the other hand, my Look kg96 has tricolor 8 speed shimano, and its amazing- could not ask for anything better and would never change it. (also the grey matches the cf so .. ). but if someone offered me SSC mavic... id be tempted for sure!
A good point well made! I've just been through the attic and found some 8speed tricolour. Brakes, levers, mechs, a rear wheel I didn't know I had and cranks. I think that's the decision made. I was thinking of the very good nick Arabesque set recently aquired but that woukd mean DT shifters. Thanks @jetboy. Before I hit the attic, I also offered someone on a sale site 40€ for an SSC rear mech. I think not but never hurts to ask
edit.. The hub has a 7S sticker on it, will it still take an 8S?
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The Mavic has 851 SSC rear mech I think might not do 8 speeds. You might have to go the next gen Mavicslant parallelogram design rear derailleur with the index feature....
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The Mavic has 851 SSC rear mech I think might not do 8 speeds. You might have to go the next gen Mavicslant parallelogram design rear derailleur with the index feature....
At the prices they go for it could take an awfully long time to collect the mavic gear. It was the tricolour hub I'm not sure about. I'll have a look on velobase.

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I have a serial number.... Whether it means anything or not is a matter of opinion.
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With vertical rear dropout and unicrown fork, I wouldn't feel pushed for an Eroica build. I would be tempted to build around the Shimano 600 headset and stay with that or 9 speed Ultegra. Silver toned group would look better IMO than the gray 600 stuff. Good looking frameset and I bet the 753 will please!
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I have a serial number.... Whether it means anything or not is a matter of opinion.
Y0019614
Remember the exercise in futility we did a number of years back on the GitaneUSA.com website trying to decipher Gitane serial numbers?

I think that it could be the same thing with these Peugeots!

My 1988 Chorus serial number is: B812 3899x

The 1989 Chorus 753 is: Y912789x

Both of my 1988 Biarritz bike have the SAME serial number!

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A good point well made! I've just been through the attic and found some 8speed tricolour. Brakes, levers, mechs, a rear wheel I didn't know I had and cranks. I think that's the decision made. I was thinking of the very good nick Arabesque set recently aquired but that woukd mean DT shifters. Thanks @jetboy. Before I hit the attic, I also offered someone on a sale site 40€ for an SSC rear mech. I think not but never hurts to ask
edit.. The hub has a 7S sticker on it, will it still take an 8S?
not sure about the hub working.... and since no one else chimed in.. it may be a try it and see situation.
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Unicrown Fork

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With vertical rear dropout and unicrown fork, I wouldn't feel pushed for an Eroica build.
I wouldn't consider it a "unicrown".

This is a unicrown: (You call that a knife?)



Unicrowns were CHEAP, UGLY weldments. Tange mass produced those forks and sold them to bike manufacturers around the world.

Peugeot used a forged or investment cast narrow aero style crown. I think that they detract from the looks of the frames but at least they're not unicrowns!

1988 Chorus



1989 Chorus 753



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I would be tempted to build around the Shimano 600 headset and stay with that or 9 speed Ultegra. Silver toned group would look better IMO than the gray 600 stuff. Good looking frameset and I bet the 753 will please!

One of my 1988 Peugeot Biarritz bikes came with a Shimano gray tricolor 600 Ultegra grupo. I agree, the bike would look good with a silver Ultegra components.



Now this is a handsome full sloping fork crown!



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Thank you Chas, I'd always wondered why some bikes with that style of sloping crown got looked down upon and called "unicrown" and others didn't.
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I now have the pic of the serial number.
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One of my 1988 Peugeot Biarritz bikes came with a Shimano gray tricolor 600 Ultegra grupo. I agree, the bike would look good with a silver Ultegra components.

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I thought about that and decided I agreed. This morning at 6.45, with my coffee, I searched Ultegra on LBC. Check out the time stamp on the ad.... Cheque is already in the post (6400 group).

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Nice price even.
I agree the grey is not for every bike: BUT, I do think it fits on certain rides- ones that want to stand out a bit...by not standing out. (if that makes sense.. pretty much every C&V bike is silver! So by going toned down grey... you actually pop out of the crowd by being less blingy)

but your frame does nto have any matching grey in it.. so probably this is not the frame to do it with.
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It's here, and it's blinkin' lovely. I thought the blue was a bit dull, but in the flesh it's really really nice. Glad I found the 6400 group, it deserves shiny things! Pics soon...
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Nice frame, and good choice of components!

Since Simplex went belly up in the late 80's my personal choice would be C-Record. I think that would be another great option.

The Ultegra will be awesome, though. Enjoy!
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Nice frame, and good choice of components!

Since Simplex went belly up in the late 80's my personal choice would be C-Record. I think that would be another great option.

The Ultegra will be awesome, though. Enjoy!
Over here, trying to put together a campag group can be 3x the price! Also, I don't think the shifting is any better, but that may just be me. Even collecting the Mavic group slowly would be an expensive process!
I do of course have a 9s Chorus group (as probably supplied on the Peugeot Chorus?) but its original to my Colnago, so best left where it is I think.
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Spidel would be cool on it.
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Over here, trying to put together a campag group can be 3x the price! Also, I don't think the shifting is any better, but that may just be me. Even collecting the Mavic group slowly would be an expensive process!
I do of course have a 9s Chorus group (as probably supplied on the Peugeot Chorus?) but its original to my Colnago, so best left where it is I think.
Doing a Campagnolo build is expensive, pretty much anywhere in the world....
Currently building up my Davidson Signature frameset to full early 80's Super Record specifications.... and my wallet is exploding from the SR components I already had to buy. Just the SR brake levers alone are priced crazy expensive out there!
Good thing DD sold me the SR crankset and threw in the shift levers and BB when he sold me the frameset, otherwise, the build would have ground to a halt because of lack of budget and time just to find components in good enough condition...
I did a couple of 7S Chorus builds recently and, surprisingly, I was able to get mint and NOS Chorus components for quite reasonable prices. I think it is because everyone is looking for C Record/Delta/ Croce d'Aune Gruppos, so the Chorus 7S Gruppo does not attract as much attention from C&Vers, even though, functionally they worked better than those top of the line Gruppos.

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I did a couple of 7S Chorus builds recently and, surprisingly, I was able to get mint and NOS Chorus components for quite reasonable prices. I think it is because everyone is looking for C Record/Delta/ Croce d'Aune Gruppos, so the Chorus 7S Gruppo does not attract as much attention from C&Vers, even though, functionally they worked better than those top of the line Gruppos.
Interesting, I'll refine my searches!
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Just been going through the parts I have so far, and the BB is a little crunchy. Then I realised I don't know what threading it's likely to be. I'm thinking ISO/English, but @verktyg could you please have a look at one of yours and confirm? I might have to email the seller to see what he had in there...
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