Andy_K 

For people who finish the coastal route and say, "You know what that ride needs? Another 600 feet of climbing!"

rccardr 

Andy_K 

With a finish line in Cambria I would have made it last year. The beer wouldn't have hurt either.

gugie 

[RUMOR] Hearst Ranch might be part of the short and long rides. Photo op at the castle? Paso Robles to be completely avoided. The three big climbs from last year remain the same.
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jcb3

gugie 

Don't know about the exact route release date, but registration website for all of Eroica is being rebuilt, and may be ready to go within a week or so. Last few years it was kind of clunky. I heard that all of the options including dinner and jersey will be available on one page.

I kludged up a potential full monty ride here. The Hearst Ranch part would be part of both the short and long routes. Included are last year's three big climbs. I'm not sure how they'll navigate around in the east side - that part is the most variable. I also can't figure out how to do the equivalent of a medium or coastal route. If anyone else wants to guess the route, feel free to post.

Soylent 

Is that a show on the Food Network?

Some coastal scenery would be nice on the shorter routes for us slow, old riders.

rccardr 

VRC

gugie 

But Paso didn't like us very much, ergo the change.

gugie 

Doc, I'm with you. The idea of riding up to the Castle, taking some gravel roads at the ranch and maybe seeing a zebra or two, who can resist?

jcb3

jcb3

gugie 

It's eroic.

Classtime 

We have 28 weeks to get faster and younger. I've just started trying to hang with faster and older guys so younger I am.

gugie 

I think it was @nlerner who mentioned to me that if you want to climb better, lose weight.

I have a lot of potential for that route...

Andy_K 

That sounds like a lot of work. I think I'll go with getting younger instead.

Oldairhead 

Paso didn't like Erocia California though! I think the change is because Paso was being, shall we say, d!cks about it. Like Paso Robles or not, they didn't seem to want the event to be held there anymore.

Chr0m0ly 

gugie 

Canti's are definitely ok - they've been around for many decades. Last year or two they allowed aero brake routing, but if your shifting goes "click" one gear at a time, that's non bene.

Don't get caught up in the minutiae of the rules, but I've copied and posted them here for discussion purposes (your Cannondale would meet them, IMO, although they're not specifically mentioned. I don't think it meets the spirit of the rules. Think of this as a costume party - if you showed up with a very weak one, or hardly an attempt to be "in the theme", why would you come?

Bike regulations
6.1 – Bicycles
Historical Bikes (also called Bici Eroiche, in Italian) are all road racing bikes built in 1987 or earlier, with or without gears, as those built in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s. These bicycles most likely have a steel frame, but also other types of rare frames are permitted, such as the aluminum frames built by Alan and Vitus, with screwed or glued joints, the Exxon Graftek frames of the late 1970’s with carbon tubes glued to aluminum lugs and Teledyne Titanium frame set made in the 1970's and some aluminum frames that were built in the 30's.

The bicycles should be in line with the following general guidelines regarding components:
a) more recent bikes with gears and derailleurs, such as, but not limited to Simplex, Huret, Campagnolo, Zeus, Shimano, Suntour, etc. must have shift levers on the down tube of the frame; exceptions include pre-1980 non indexed bar-end gear shifters, Stem mounted friction shifters and rod/hand manual operated front derailleurs;
b) pedals should be with toe clips and straps or, for older bikes, as the original pedals; quick release, clip-less pedals are not allowed. You may ride the traditional pedals without the toe clips or straps.
c) we prefer the traditional brake lever setup on the bicycles, brake cables pass outside and over the handlebars (cables can pass inside the top tube of main frame), however, starting in 2017, aero brake levers without built in shifters will be allowed.
d) older geared bicycles should have original shifters such as Cambio Corsa, Cambio Paris Roubaix, Cambio Vittoria Margherita, etc.;
e) wheels must have at least 32 spokes laced to a low profile rim (20 mm depth or less, except for the wood rims); the rims must be of either steel, aluminum or wood;
f) both tubular tyres and clinchers with inner tubes are allowed;
g) we invite participants to fit saddles from the same period of the bicycles, so a model of 1987 or earlier, or a vintage model of modern production such as Brooks leather saddles, Cinelli replicas, San Marco, etc;
h) the change of the gear ratios is allowed due to the difficulty of the ride;
i) there are no particular rules on the type of brakes as long as they are in line with the construction period of the bicycle and that they are efficient for safety reasons.
Of course, older road racing bicycles of the early 1900’s with single gear or flip-flop rear hubs don’t need to comply with the above criteria as long as they have their original components.
"Vintage-Looking Bikes" with steel frames from new or recent construction with vintage look and characteristics may be used only if they are assembled using vintage components or replicated parts similar to the original as described above. In particular if the bikes are inspired by the design of road racing bicycles of the 1970’s and 1980’s, they must comply with rules a), b), and c) above, regarding shift levers, toe clips and straps, and brake cables.
Exemptions regarding the type of bicycle will be granted to participants with disabilities, as long as they make a specific request to the organization at the time of registration.
For the short route, other types of vintage bicycles will be admitted, such as postman’s bikes, military bikes, general working bicycles, leisure bicycles, etc. as long as they were built in 1987 or earlier.
Mountain bikes, cyclo cross bikes and time trial bikes are excluded from all routes.
Any registered cyclist who arrives at the start line or found on the route on the day of the ride with a bicycle/components that do not conform with the criteria set forth by the event organizers may face an immediate disqualification upon discovery.

NOTE: Many people have asked the reason for these rules, specifically with regards to pedals and brakes. In our opinion, aero levers and clipless pedals are the sign of modern-age cycling. Both became popular in the mid-1980s and they forever changed the look of traditional road racing bicycles. Therefore, our founding members have decided not to allow them at our events. However, at 2018 Eroica California, we have decided to allow the aero brake levers with brake cable routed under the bar tape (only the brake lever function is allowed on the levers) to encourage more people to participate. Many of our participants simply swap pedals to comply for the event and switch them back.

Bottom line, if you're thinking of ways to bend or beat the rules, perhaps this isn't the ride for you. That's ok.

Chr0m0ly 

gugie 

I had no idea what cos-play was until about a year ago. I have two teenage daughters, they try their best to keep me up to date.

Your 710 would be perfect. I sold a lot of those in Berkeley, CA right around them. And you are correct, the bike spirit is rustic road race, but the pace is more like touring for most.

Chr0m0ly 

Chr0m0ly 

Found it, post #6
28T max sprocket 26T

Suntour Cyclone Mk-II rear derailluer: chain wrap capacity?

gugie 

I've used the long cage version up to a 32t rear.

Most of the people that go to Eroica "cheat" and go lower gearing, it's not frowned upon. I saw a lot of Campy NR rear derailleurs with after market long cages on them and drilled out NR triples. There's no shame in getting old and still wanting to get out there.