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Old 09-24-18, 05:59 PM
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1980? Bianchi Super Corsa

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Scored what I think is a pretty sweet ride here from the original owner. I think it is a 1980 frame according to the sticker, but the SN makes me think it might be a 1979. The original owner built it up from a frameset at the historic Sunflower Bike Shop in Lawrence, KS. I can only find a 1981 Bianchi catalog, but I assume the complete 1980 super corsa had campy super record throughout. I wish it was complete as from the factory, but this gentleman did a pretty good job with the components and mix of Suntour Cyclone derailleurs and hubs, Dura Ace (not sure the age of the crankset but it seems newer), and Shimano 600. Sweet saddle too.

This things fits me like a glove and I can't wait to throw on some new tires and give it a spin. I will be keeping this bike forever, but was wondering, were you me, what you would do with it. Keep it mostly as is, or try originalize it as much as possible? Pics below as it came to me. Will update after I clean it.

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Congrats!
Nice find!!!!!!!
I'd break it down to the frame and do a full refurbish, and find Super Record components to restore it to its former glory.

Love the chromed lugs.
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Congrats on a super find / buy . If it were me I would go full Campy period correct , but no big hurry the thing is awesome as is .
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You lucky dog! I agree on period correct Campy. Take your time and you will find the components at reasonable prices.
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If that is the way the bike was first built, I'd be inclined to keep it as is. I bet it pedals, shifts and brakes better than SR, and It is so wonderfully preserved--like it was ridden often and hard while also looking like it was ridden sparingly if at all. I'm glad these things are still out there. It encourages me to hold off on some lesser bikes and use my "Dont you have enough bikes?" n+1 on something special.
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If that is the way the bike was first built, I'd be inclined to keep it as is. I bet it pedals, shifts and brakes better than SR, and It is so wonderfully preserved--like it was ridden often and hard while also looking like it was ridden sparingly if at all. I'm glad these things are still out there. It encourages me to hold off on some lesser bikes and use my "Dont you have enough bikes?" n+1 on something special.
Pretty sure the 80 SuperCorsa was a full Campy bike.
Looks like "upgrades" have been made through the years, as was (is) common in our hobby.

If the brakes were Royal Gran Compe or Superbe Pro, I'd agree with you on the "better than Super Record" thing, but a frame like this (IMO) deserves proper treatment. I'm pretty sure (may be totally wrong) that the Italian builders didn't embrace Dura Ace / Japanese alternatives until the mid to latter 80's.

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Yeah, that's a great looking Bianchi you found.

I would go with Campy throughout myself. I could be wrong, but I think if its a 79/80, then it might be Nuovo Record, not SR. That Shimano crank is a bit of an eyesore IMHO. That bike should clean up nicely. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by canyoneagle
Pretty sure the 80 SuperCorsa was a full Campy bike.
Looks like "upgrades" have been made through the years, as was (is) common in our hobby.

If the brakes were Royal Gran Compe or Superbe Pro, I'd agree with you on the "better than Super Record" thing, but a frame like this (IMO) deserves proper treatment. I'm pretty sure (may be totally wrong) that the Italian builders didn't embrace Dura Ace / Japanese alternatives until the mid to latter 80's.

the original owner built it up from a frame set in 1980ish. This was definitely not a complete bike from the factory. I too find the black front ring to be an eyesore. That said, everything Ive read says late 70s early 80s cyclone was about as good as it gets for shifting performance. Id like to outfit it with super record but want to make sure I get the right ones. Any tips/links on that front?
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I would remove the purple clamp-on bottle cage and carefully clean it, replace chain, bar tape, and cables/housing, grease the hubs/headset/BB, and ride it while you ruminate on the next steps. I'd probably go with black housings/tape (to match the catalog photo), and I'd make sure to not have the brake cables so exuberant above the bars.

I agree the cranks and (especially) the chain rings don't fit. Perhaps there's someone with a build that needs quality vintage DA and black chain rings who would like to do some kind of trade. You have to get pretty close to realize the derailleurs, brakes, and levers aren't proper Italian, so I think if I got a nice set of NR cranks I'd be inclined to leave well enough alone for a while. Beautiful bike!
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Another vote for Super Record group. My guess is the headset is original to the bike, other parts added later. The Campy engraved headset spacer is highly sought-after. Gorgeous bike, love the chrome lugs and seatstay caps!
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Nice bike, for now Id shorten the brake cables, a bit ridiculous, clean it up and ride it. Over the winter, I would source the correct Campy components, and switch it over. Love the rims, leave them alone.
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Thanks everyone. Can someone link me an eBay auction with super record that would fit so I know what to look for?

I am still waiting for [MENTION=198974]tma[/MENTION]r to chime in with the exact millisecond this thing was manufactured. Would also love to hear from [MENTION=208267]bianchigirl[/MENTION].
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Good luck with those Ambrosio wheels. Wooboy they fit tires tight.
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Originally Posted by jayhawkpanic
Thanks everyone. Can someone link me an eBay auction with super record that would fit so I know what to look for?

I am still waiting for [MENTION=198974]tma[/MENTION]r to chime in with the exact millisecond this thing was manufactured. Would also love to hear from [MENTION=208267]bianchigirl[/MENTION].




IMO a frame of this provenance deserves a correct restoration. Even though it was a frameset that was built up, I'd shoot for the catalog spec. Those fetch top dollar if you ever decided to sell it.

Here's a start:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Campagnolo-...8AAOSw-MRbqBiR

Currently at a reasonable bid, but 25 watchers. I'd guess this will go to $200 or higher. Under $100 would be a bargain.
Seller indicates that clamp is available for the FD on buyer request.

Same seller has other components as well (seatpost, brakes, etc) https://www.ebay.com/sch/giannimotta/m.html?item=123386547431&hash=item1cba694ce7%3Ag%3AoY8AAOSw-MRbqBiR&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
The crankset/BB is reasonably priced at $125 for the condition.


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Here's another.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-80s...wAAOSwty5bmqTU
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Great score! One of the rarest 80s Bianchis. PM me if you have questions, I've done lots of research. I have a thread here somewhere, here's mine.




(Non-spec rims and freewheel and a few other things.) The build of yours is pretfy cool as is. By the time you buy all the correct Super Corsa bits you'll have a couple grand into and might not ride it as much, beware! If it was really built up from a frame then it is more original now than if you build it up as a factory Super Corsa. Most of the original bits weren't just Super Record, but pantographed Super Record, which is in another ballpark price-wise.

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Originally Posted by canyoneagle
Got to be careful though if you want to go "correct". You want the right PAT RD (maybe no PAT), panto'd crank, rings, shift levers, brake levers. Some might have had pantographed brakes and seatpost. The Super Record FD wasn't out until after bike was made. There's more little details like this if you want to restore it.

I strongly recommend not repainting, redecaling, or even touching up.
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If a bike fit me like a glove and rode just as well I would first measure everything carefully and then not change a thing! YMMV
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Okay, I'll be that guy.

First, a couple observations about the components/ That SunTour RD will will shift better than any Campy NR or SR. Sad but true. And that crankset looks like a 1st-gen Dura Ace, which makes it older, not newer, than the frame. Both are top-drawer parts.

Now for the real question: What do you want this bike to be? Do you want it to be a time-capsule/museum piece? Clean up the frame and go full Campy SR. It will ride wonderfully and be drool-worthy.

Do you want it as your regular rider? Clean up the frame and the components, and replace the brake pads with Mathausers or Kool Stops if that has not already been done. Swap any consumables (cables, housing, tires, tubes, bar tape) that need it. It will ride at least as wonderfully as it will with SR stuff and only very, very slightly less drool-worthy.

Bottom line: I don't think you can go wrong either way. it's a matter of what you want the bike for.

I do suggest that, before you make any hard and fast decisions, make it rideable and ride the heck out of it for a while. Let the novelty wear off a bit so you can look at it without stars in your eyes. Get to know it's quirks, hidden joys and hidden eccentricities. Then you can make a more informed decision as to what to do with it. There is a chance (a very slight chance) that the ride will disappoint you. If after a honeymoon period you still want to invest in a full SR set up, great. Or if after a honeymoon you decide that you like it just the way it is, great. And in the unlikley event you find that the bloom comes off the rose, you will not have sunk extra bucks into it.

Having said all that, serious congrats on a really great find. It looks like it has been well loved but well taken care of. I would expect it will clean to be even more gorgeous that the photos show. And I do not mean to suggest that it will not be a great rider. But one person's dream machine is another's overly-twitchy death-trap and yet some other person's dead-feeling slug. It's one of those YMMV things. Here's to hoping and expecting that that won't be the case for you.
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^great post

I find myself sitting in my garage just staring at this thing quite often

bump hopefully for some input from T-Mar and bianchigirl


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Why did Bianchi use a Piaggio decal Instead of a Bianchi decal on the headtube?

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Beautiful bike, sir. +1 with everything bikingshearer said above. I've found there is something to the notion that if the bike is in really good shape and period correct with the original high end parts, I look at it more than I ride it. Sad but true. I'd give it a thorough service and ride it 'as is' for awhile before dropping serious money into it.
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Why did Bianchi use a Piaggio decal Instead of a Bianchi decal on the headtube?

The Piaggio group (Vespa, etc) bought Bianchi around 1980.

Most early 80s Bianchis have Piaggio decals on the seat tube.

The top of the line models in 79-81ish had them on the head tube. (It also says "Vespa" on these bikes under the Piaggio decal, which I think is cool.)

[MENTION=208267]bianchigirl[/MENTION] or [MENTION=20650]T-Mar[/MENTION] might have more precise info on dates and models, but Italian manufacturers weren't always consistant so expect variation.

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Why did Bianchi use a Piaggio decal Instead of a Bianchi decal on the headtube?
Piaggio was an Italian company that started out manufacturing locomotives and passenger cars, eventually diversifying into aeronautics. When the founder died in 1938, his sons made the decision to diversify into economical, personal transportation out of which came their most famous product, the Vespa motor scooter. From there, expanding into bicycles was a logical step and in late 1979 their acquired Bianchi.

To promote the new relationship, Piaggio replaced Italian coffee machine manufacturer FAEMA as the secondary sponsor of the Bianchi factory racing team. The team would be known as Bianchi-Piaggio for 1980-1984. During this period Bianchi bicycles were distributed in America by Vespa USA and all the bicycles carried a Piaggio decal. The decal is normally seen on the seat tube, but the 1981 catalogue shows it on the head tube for the Super Corsa. This would make sense when you consider that most photos of pro cyclists are taken as the cyclist approaches the photographer. Consequently, the head tube decal is the most prominent company emblem in most race photos. Curiously, a review a period race photos show the traditional Bianchi head emblem. Consequently, the Piaggio head tube emblem may have been limited to USA market models (Bianchi is notorious for variations between markets) and appears to have been in effect only for a short period, as the 1982 USA catalogue shows the traditional head emblem on all models.

Bianchi USA was created to distribute the bicycles from 1985 onward, at which point the Piaggio decal was dropped.

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