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Old 09-27-18, 08:40 AM
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Mystery Japanese touring bike

just picked this up off of craigslist and Iím stumped. Wierd mix of parts, and the only decals are the Tange decals on the seat tube and fork (tho it had a Rivendell sticker on the head tube... lol). Arx components seem original since it has the braze on mount for Symmetric shifters. Hatta bottom bracket and headset. Suzue hubs. First gen dura ace brake levers, and specialized stem are likely replacements. At first I thought centurion elite gt, but the lugs donít look right...

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Old 09-27-18, 09:04 AM
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I donít know what it is..
but I LIKE it!

Cool find!

can you post a couple pictures of that bag?
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Looks like a Miyata.
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Offhand, I can think of a few possibilities but the easiest way to narrow down the brand and model is via the serial number, which should tell us the manufacturer and date.
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Offhand, I can think of a few possibilities but the easiest way to narrow down the brand and model is via the serial number, which should tell us the manufacturer and date.
looks like HE86966
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Old 09-27-18, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chr0m0ly View Post
I donít know what it is..
but I LIKE it!

Cool find!

can you post a couple pictures of that bag?




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Old 09-27-18, 11:01 AM
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Looks like I may be looking for new bars... these look bent in that pic.
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Old 09-27-18, 11:48 AM
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Also, has 3 bottle mount braze ons and fork rack braze ons, if that helps with Id. The detailing on the frame seems higher end than Tange 5 and hi ten forks would suggest.
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Sweet bike!

Mosr stuff on there looks pretty “1984” to me- I’d check the Suntour date codes.

Some makers didn't have a problem mixing and matching Shimano and Suntour and stuff. At least until Shimano forced the issue.

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Looks like I may be looking for new bars... these look bent in that pic.

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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post

Sweet bike!

Mosr stuff on there looks pretty ď1984Ē to me- Iíd check the Suntour date codes.

Some makers didn't have a problem mixing and matching Shimano and Suntour and stuff. At least until Shimano forced the issue.
the only Shimano on here is the brake levers, and they are older than the rest of it. Iíd agree on 84... it has that look with the symmetric shifters. Aero touring huh...

the whole bar/stem/lever combo is not original Iíd bet... 3ttt bars, first gen dura ace levers, and specialized stem? I donít know...
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Looks like a good fit for that cable stop adapter than came up in a thread recently.
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Date on the Dia-Compe cantis is 1983.
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I know I have seen that color combo before. Nishiki?
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero View Post
I know I have seen that color combo before. Nishiki?
serial doesnít seem to match known codes, unless Iím reading it wrong...this is what made made me think centurion... but serial number and lugs seem wrong too...and I thought that was a one year model too

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Old 09-27-18, 01:54 PM
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That bag looks like someone adapted an army surplus canvas haversack as a bike bag - cool, how is the fit and ride of your mystery bike?
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That bag looks like someone adapted an army surplus canvas haversack as a bike bag - cool, how is the fit and ride of your mystery bike?
he bag is a German mil bag I adapted for a bike bag... or, strapped on my bike.

fit is French. Ride is wonderful. Will probably be even better with tires bigger than the 27x1 1/8 I have on there now.
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Originally Posted by Cl904 View Post

he bag is a German mil bag I adapted for a bike bag... or, strapped on my bike.

fit is French. Ride is wonderful. Will probably be even better with tires bigger than the 27x1 1/8 I have on there now.
Glad its a good rider for you -FWIW I have been using the Swift Sand Canyons in 27x1 3/8 on my recently refurb'd Nishiki Cresta GT and so far I really like the ride

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If this has been mentioned already forgive but the bike seems to have been painted?
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Originally Posted by Pemetic2006 View Post
If this has been mentioned already forgive but the bike seems to have been painted?
maybe?
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best guess so far is a Tsunoda

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wait for T-mar to respond to the serial number. he will likely nail it.
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Perhaps a Fuji Touring V?

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Switched out some 1 1/4Ē gumwalls and an ideale 90... whatever this thing is itís a great ride.
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero View Post
I know I have seen that color combo before. Nishiki?
I'm with you here; can't recall the model though. The SN will probably prove us wrong.
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Old 09-29-18, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit531 View Post
I'm with you here; can't recall the model though. The SN will probably prove us wrong.
thatís whatís getting me... after going thru the Asian serial number guide it looks like it is made by Tsunoda. That could make it a lotus... or maybe something else. The bike doesnít match any known lotus model with the tubing and details. The tubing decals arenít clear coated over, so Iím not even sure they are legit.
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