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Old 09-30-18, 08:38 PM
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I agree with @non-fixie that the frame size stamped on the front of the fork crown is the most unique aspect of this bike. I have not seen that before either.

As for the head badge outline, no Belgian marques come immediately to mind. There are two Dutch ones (relatively well known) that could possibly fit the outline - Jan Janssen and Fongers. Doesn't mean its one of those marques, but the head badge shape is somewhat similar (Janssen more so than Fongers). On the other hand, I haven't seen the head badge styles below that were not riveted, so...

BTW, it's not uncommon to see Janssen frames made with Ishiwata tubing (in case the tubing decals are original to your frame).



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Old 09-30-18, 09:34 PM
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I agree with @non-fixie that the frame size stamped on the front of the fork crown is the most unique aspect of this bike. I have not seen that before either.
As for the head badge outline, no Belgian marques come immediately to mind. There are two Dutch ones (relatively well known) that could possibly fit the outline - Jan Janssen and Fongers. Doesn't mean its one of those marques, but the head badge shape is somewhat similar (Janssen more so than Fongers). On the other hand, I haven't seen the head badge styles below that were not riveted, so...
BTW, it's not uncommon to see Janssen frames made with Ishiwata tubing (in case the tubing decals are original to your frame).
Thanks for that suggestion. I was also looking at the JJ headbadges. The Fongers doesn't fit, with it's pear-shaped outline, as the sides of this one are straight.
I've sifted through hundreds (if not thousands by now) of images, and still haven't found anything that comes as close as the JJ does.
The bike takes a 27.2mm seatpost, which is in line with SL, 022, 531competition. if it were a smaller diameter, there may be incentive to use the wrong decal to deceive, but if someone were to do that, I would expect a more popular branding like SL or 531 - and not what those who don't know Ishiwata well would consider as a downgrade. It truly is an old decal though, judging by the fading and the patina. so in absence of a plausible explanation as to why someone would want to mislabel their 27.2mm i.d. tubing as Ishiwata instead of something with a higher valuation, I've just decided to believe it.
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Old 09-30-18, 09:45 PM
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Hey guys I did a little clean up because it's getting a little heated.

I think there's a lot of help being offered here considering that more info is popping up as this thread moves along. A lot more help than if nobody replied...

That being said, let's remember that the forum guidelines call for no name calling and respect.

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Old 10-01-18, 01:15 AM
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I think Maurice may have pegged it. See post #13 in this thread Help ID-ing old Jan Janssen. Notice the yellow filled lug window.
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Originally Posted by Insidious C. View Post
I think Maurice may have pegged it. See post #13 in this thread Help ID-ing old Jan Janssen. Notice the yellow filled lug window.
Thanks! I emailed them. Let's see if anything comes of that. I'll share info if it's a positive ID.

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