How we can save some vintage bikes!
A couple days ago I went to one of my new favorite places to look at old bike stuff – a place called ‘Good Bikes’, a tiny bike outfit run out of the local area Goodwill warehouse. Their main purpose is more ‘people driven’ than ‘bike driven’ – give folks with developmental or cognitive disabilities a place to do something positive and work on some bikes and learn new skills. They then sell the worked-on bikes. See more about them here.
I caught them right as they were leaving for lunch, so I hung out outside the shop area for them to return, where there are some large scrap bins for me to stay entertained with. Well, entertaining they were… http://magaimg.net/img/6aq7.jpg http://magaimg.net/img/6aq8.jpg A little dirty and crusty. Hidden gold. http://magaimg.net/img/6aqc.jpg In the scrap pile I found a Raleigh Super Course and, digging deeper, also found a fillet brazed Schwinn Super Sport. Plus a bunch of other bikes that looked decently usable/sellable with a little work. http://magaimg.net/img/6aqd.jpg Super! A Super Sport, to be exact. http://magaimg.net/img/6aqe.jpg http://magaimg.net/img/6aqf.jpg http://magaimg.net/img/6aqg.jpg Destined for destruction, set aside for scrap. I feel like I rescued bunch of cats. Meet my temporary lawn ornaments. Confused, I spoke to the shop manager upon their return (she is a cool lady and pretty down to earth) and she told me that any bike that has rust on it, they can’t put out on the floor for sale. The Super Course and Super Sport sadly went straight into the dumpster. The other bikes, well… Turns out that due to parts shortages and lack of consumables, some bikes that may be fixable don’t make the cut. Because they don’t have master mechanics who can plan a build 15 steps ahead, bikes that are a little more intensive repair-wise can easily discourage and frustrate their volunteers. What compounds that is lack of parts and basics like cables and tubes. When I asked about it, it sounds like they have no working budget to buy things like that – whatever they get in the way of bike donations is what they have to work with. So I want to do something about it. I’m going to try to link up a local bicycle co-op to try and take some of the more intensive bicycle projects off their hands (which they were excited about), I know a great source for those old grungy road bikes (hi, C&V subforum!) that they would scrap anyway. But they could still use things like tubes and patches and cables and housing. Anyone interested in helping? When I asked what they needed most, they said tubes – 12”, 16”, 20” and 26” most needed. Patched tubes are fine. Sounds like they have no patches to work with. I’m thinking of getting one of those 100 packs of the Rema patches and maybe do a small clinic for the volunteers on patching tubes. I think something small/simple could go a long way for these guys. Here is the address of the Good Bikes shop, just in case you’ve got some extras laying around your shop: 6850 Federal Blvd. Denver, CO 80221 Since it is located in the Goodwill warehouse, I would address anything using something like ‘Goodwill Industries, ATTN: Good Bikes Shop’ Also, to anyone donating, please let me know if you are interested in either of the Super Sport or Super Course frames – in the interest of paying it forward, I’d love to see them go to a deserving member here who is able to help out this little shop. They are larger (I can get exact measurments) and while crusty, they are in decent shape and each would make a GREAT starting build. |
That is the longest post I have ever seen on BF in my nearly 10 years here. Bravo :)
DD |
Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
(Post 20592127)
I figured worst I could hear would be 'No.'
But I digress. This is actually quite awesome, your thread, along with what you did today. Lots of ideas come to mind. * Don't ANY of the proceeds from the bike sales slush back into the operation? Yeah, it's always noble to reuse / repurpose as much as possible with any such operation, and low-budget is admirable. But no-budget is unrealistic;there are always "consumable" costs. What do they do for lubricants, cleaners, shop towels, etc? I wonder how many bikes DON'T get fixed for lack of one foot of cable housing, or what-not. There should really be a campaign launched to feed back even a small percent, two bucks per bike or something, back into operating expenses. * Is there any other bike co-op / recycle / build-to-own operation in the area? An ongoing exchange relationship would be in order, whereby the other operation would get the rusty frames, etc. that GB can't use, and in exchange GB would get the small stuff you mentioned that they're always struggling to obtain. * Found their web site - https://www.goodwilldenver.org/progr...goodbikes.html . Site should have a wish list, one specific to the GB operation. Shoot, I'm sure I have a glut of MTB size innertubes, and I'll be they're cheap enough to mail. Situation reminds me of the _real_ version of the "fish" aphorism - Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach him to fish (and nothing more), and he starves for lack of a pole. Lend him your spare pole, and teach him some barter economics, and he eats for life, returns your pole, shares his abundance of fish and passes it all along to the next guy. |
Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
(Post 20592179)
That is the longest post I have ever seen on BF in my nearly 10 years here. Bravo :)
DD |
Originally Posted by madpogue
(Post 20592240)
On a forum, you could hear a LOT worse. :eek:
But I digress. This is actually quite awesome, your thread, along with what you did today. Lots of ideas come to mind. * Don't ANY of the proceeds from the bike sales slush back into the operation? Yeah, it's always noble to reuse / repurpose as much as possible with any such operation, and low-budget is admirable. But no-budget is unrealistic;there are always "consumable" costs. What do they do for lubricants, cleaners, shop towels, etc? I wonder how many bikes DON'T get fixed for lack of one foot of cable housing, or what-not. There should really be a campaign launched to feed back even a small percent, two bucks per bike or something, back into operating expenses. * Is there any other bike co-op / recycle / build-to-own operation in the area? An ongoing exchange relationship would be in order, whereby the other operation would get the rusty frames, etc. that GB can't use, and in exchange GB would get the small stuff you mentioned that they're always struggling to obtain. * Found their web site - https://www.goodwilldenver.org/progr...goodbikes.html . Site should have a wish list, one specific to the GB operation. Shoot, I'm sure I have a glut of MTB size innertubes, and I'll be they're cheap enough to mail. Situation reminds me of the _real_ version of the "fish" aphorism - Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach him to fish (and nothing more), and he starves for lack of a pole. Lend him your spare pole, and teach him some barter economics, and he eats for life, returns your pole, shares his abundance of fish and passes it all along to the next guy. As far as the local co-op outfits go, that is my plan to link these fine folks up. I think it would be great to start saving bikes, and if the co-op gets a good discount on cables or patch kits or whatever, then maybe they can throw some their way. |
^^^^^ Exactly, get the bike people and the people people together.
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
(Post 20592179)
That is the longest post I have ever seen on BF in my nearly 10 years here. Bravo :)
DD |
I thought the local Goodwill store has a smelter hiding- I see bikes being donated then they vanish never to be seen again. the local Salvation Army store just hangs them meat hook style with prices that are amazing in their assault on rational thought. no effort expended to get them going well. the Good Bikes needs a paradigm shift it reads, totally understand about the abilities of the help, but almost anyone who can show up to work is trainable to a functional degree just needing much more time and repetition to be effective. i guess I would work it what do the trainees need to become as useful as possible? Maybe even outside employable ? Then figure out how to get the "consumables" into the shop. I guess my thought would not be C&V folk ( other than a market for some of the "scrap" but an importer / distributor Who could donate or sell stuff to the training program. |
Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
(Post 20592498)
Ha! Well, I completely re-wrote it in the interest of making less heads hurt:)
I really dig that Super Sport. Don't see too many of those around these days, and I bet it would be easy to find decals for it. Although I once owned a Super Course, I'd call the Schwinn the best score. DD |
Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
(Post 20592267)
...As far as the local co-op outfits go, that is my plan to link these fine folks up. I think it would be great to start saving bikes, and if the co-op gets a good discount on cables or patch kits or whatever, then maybe they can throw some their way.
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