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Old 10-13-18, 10:17 AM
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If I do the hilly medium route, probably ride the granny gear Raleigh.

Good to see you Sunday, Bart. I've got a room booked along Moonstone Beach, not signed up for the ride yet. Undecided on route. I've ridden most of the roads up there, just need to decide on how much pain I need to endure.
Oh, you've gotta do the medium route then. I missed out on seeing your repainted Raleigh last year!
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A couple things have to come together, but I'm planning on being there for my first l'Eroica. Probably doing the long ride because this is for my 60th birthday in April and it needs to be epic.
I don't know any of you guys except Biking Shearer sort of... and I don't get to spend much time with the short riders I guess.
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Classic steel bike, downtube shifters, tubulars CHECK
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Thanks to Bartley for the personal invitation to the 2018 ride - been thinking about next year ever since.



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DS, I would be honored to meet and/or ride with you in April.
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Ok add me to the list, signed up this morning.

If I ride it will be the 35 mile route with my Takahashi Sannow Sport (the back surgery restoration bike). The "if" is as I will be between 4-5 months post L5 back surgery so won't know till I get there as to when I will be released to ride and more importantly be able to pick up and move the weight of a 25lb bike. So good thoughts all.

Back up will include a bike for the Concours even I I can't ride. See you all next spring.

Edited for the obvious question: What's a Takahashi Sannow Sport? Mid-1976 date of consruction, 21.5 lbs. without pedals, First Generation Shimano Dura Ace (black) gruppo, lovely ride with 28mm tires, likely switch to 32mm if I can ride Eroica.

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I'm in a quandry. Want to ride my Bertoni but it's been updated with an 8 speed Shimano 105 groupo. Downtube shifters but the gray finish is a 1990's giveaway. My son has my Torrelli with Campi NR but he is pretty far away. That puts me on the Panasonic DX 4000 which makes the 1987 cut off. Kinda harsh ride, and barely appropriate.
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I'll be back again for my 4th EC. Planning to ride the Scalatore route but wondering how the climbs and descent into Cambria will feel towards the end of the ride after all the miles.
Looking forward to seeing and riding with many of you again. It will be on us before we know it!
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My original 72 Super Speciale from high school as ridden Eroica 2017
OK, I've officially registered and finalizing Cambria accommodations for my family and BIL/SIL who will be coming from Portland, OR. I've signed up for the 75 mile route with a bit of trepidation but figure I've got 5 more months to train for the climbs. Looking forward to this event and will spend the week (Thur-Thur) in Cambria and coast area, maybe take an inland day trip or two.

Let's keep the registrations and travel ideas coming, plus letting us know what you'll be riding. For now, I'll probably ride my brown 72 Italvega Super Speciale, but I've started working on a later 74 mist green Italvega Super Speciale or possibly a Superlight if I can get the right setup.

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1972 ItalVega Gran Rally!
I will be riding this bike for the 35 mile route although I think I will have to pump up the tires! Seriously I am working on it now and it looks like it will be ready for Eroica. Coming along nicely , Joe
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Originally Posted by HM70 View Post
I'm in a quandry. Want to ride my Bertoni but it's been updated with an 8 speed Shimano 105 groupo. Downtube shifters but the gray finish is a 1990's giveaway. My son has my Torrelli with Campi NR but he is pretty far away. That puts me on the Panasonic DX 4000 which makes the 1987 cut off. Kinda harsh ride, and barely appropriate.
What to do?
I'd ride the Bertoni....no one is going to care that it has an 8sp group. Consider this.....the Bianchi Eroica, which is "certified by the L'Eroica commission as suitable for participating in global L' Eroica events" has a modern 10sp Campy group with a compact crank.
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I'd ride the Bertoni....no one is going to care that it has an 8sp group. Consider this.....the Bianchi Eroica, which is "certified by the L'Eroica commission as suitable for participating in global L' Eroica events" has a modern 10sp Campy group with a compact crank.
Agreed. Nobody cares or checks. Just put it in friction mode and enjoy.
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Does the Nova route have the same support/feed stops as the non-nova route of the same length?
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This is the ride i bought when i first heard about this ride. Pedals, brake levers, and wider range RD in the mail. need freewheel, and more appropriate saddle, and possible leather shoes and wool jersey to make it work. Would love to find a jersey with Ciocc embroidered on it, or a period correct version of the Polish olympic team from 1980 since they rode this brand to a silver that year.

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Does the Nova route have the same support/feed stops as the non-nova route of the same length?
No, the Eroica event has gourmet food made by chefs flown in from Europe, especially Italy. Massage tables are available at the top of every climb.
The Nova route people get gel shots and energy drinks.

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No, the Eroica event has gourmet food made by chefs flown in from Europe, especially Italy. Massage tables are available at the top of every climb.
The Nova route people get gel shots and energy drinks.

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Just as I suspected. . .
modern vs old school in all ways I guess!
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No, the Eroica event has gourmet food made by chefs flown in from Europe, especially Italy. Massage tables are available at the top of every climb.
The Nova route people get gel shots and energy drinks.

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Plus "vitamin" shots at the base of every climb.


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I'd ride the Bertoni....no one is going to care that it has an 8sp group. Consider this.....the Bianchi Eroica, which is "certified by the L'Eroica commission as suitable for participating in global L' Eroica events" has a modern 10sp Campy group with a compact crank.
Thanks for the encouragement. Now I really want to go. I'll put as much Camping back on the Bertoni I can find.
I was in Gaiole in the late 70s, rode in a "festa" tour for dilletanti and won a bottle of Chianti as the rider who came from farthest away. That got drunk b
ut I can wear the G S Gaioli flocked jersey from the ride! Eroica seems to be a Tuscan phenomenon well routed in the past
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Does the Nova route have the same support/feed stops as the non-nova route of the same length?
for sure there is one stop at Halter Ranch Vineyard and there’s usually a stop at Cayucos to enjoy the surf, pier, cookies and food at the 17 mile mark. Normally, there have been on the classic ride stops every 13-24 miles or so depending on the route.

best to click this page and ask the questions, when you get an answer, share it here.
EROICA CALIFORNIA | 6 - 7 APRIL 2019 this is the contact link.

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Thank you for starting this thread - I'm in downtown SLO if anyone local wants to train together. I'm targeting the 75 mile route.

I'm doing this for the first time and am just starting to collect parts for a "new" build based around a Guerciotti Record frame. Here's my question about gearing -- it seems contradictory to me that that you have this "vintage" bike ride on a course that requires mortal riders to gear their bikes almost to the point of a mountain bike. I've seen Eroica bikes equipped with mountain bike derailleurs and 32 cog cassettes mounted to modern freehubs and 36 inner chainrings. This seems odd to me. I'm in my early 50's and fit and I plan to run Campy Super Record all around, which likely means 52/42 with a 14-28 freewheel. I'm prepared to do a little walking if needed, but the purist in me wants to avoid going outside the spirit of the event.

Am I going about this wrong?
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Also - is it possible to upload the routes to my Strava account so I can do some recon over the winter?
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Keith, I think that is a great way to go about it. (But, you should do the Heroic route.)

Maybe this is useful.
https://www.strava.com/activities/1511329881

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Thank you for starting this thread - I'm in downtown SLO if anyone local wants to train together. I'm targeting the 75 mile route.

I'm doing this for the first time and am just starting to collect parts for a "new" build based around a Guerciotti Record frame. Here's my question about gearing -- it seems contradictory to me that that you have this "vintage" bike ride on a course that requires mortal riders to gear their bikes almost to the point of a mountain bike. I've seen Eroica bikes equipped with mountain bike derailleurs and 32 cog cassettes mounted to modern freehubs and 36 inner chainrings. This seems odd to me. I'm in my early 50's and fit and I plan to run Campy Super Record all around, which likely means 52/42 with a 14-28 freewheel. I'm prepared to do a little walking if needed, but the purist in me wants to avoid going outside the spirit of the event.

Am I going about this wrong?
Not necessarily, but keep in mind that as I've stated before, there were plenty of touring bikes being built back then that were pretty extreme for the day. Jim Merz and Spence Wolf to name a couple. Jim was a touring guru and Spence was well known for his "alpine" gearing option.

Heres my 78 Merz touring with 52.42,36 up front and 14-3? out back, pretty much just as it was built that I rode in 2017.
And a 74 that was his and has been upgraded with more modern but was originally built very similar to the 78.
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Also - is it possible to upload the routes to my Strava account so I can do some recon over the winter?
I tried to do this, but Strava doesn't recognize some of the unpaved roads, and won't let you select them.
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Thank you for starting this thread - I'm in downtown SLO if anyone local wants to train together. I'm targeting the 75 mile route.

I'm doing this for the first time and am just starting to collect parts for a "new" build based around a Guerciotti Record frame. Here's my question about gearing -- it seems contradictory to me that that you have this "vintage" bike ride on a course that requires mortal riders to gear their bikes almost to the point of a mountain bike. I've seen Eroica bikes equipped with mountain bike derailleurs and 32 cog cassettes mounted to modern freehubs and 36 inner chainrings. This seems odd to me. I'm in my early 50's and fit and I plan to run Campy Super Record all around, which likely means 52/42 with a 14-28 freewheel. I'm prepared to do a little walking if needed, but the purist in me wants to avoid going outside the spirit of the event.

Am I going about this wrong?
No, you're just going about it the way you want to, the way that makes you happy.
Everyone approaches this celebration of fellowship and vintage equipment in their own way. Enjoy it and appreciate the way others enjoy it as well.
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No, you're just going about it the way you want to, the way that makes you happy.
Everyone approaches this celebration of fellowship and vintage equipment in their own way. Enjoy it and appreciate the way others enjoy it as well.
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