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Old 03-21-19, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by boomerbicyclist View Post
Sorry for the query, but can't find a good information source beyond the official Eroica site. My question is this: the Brooks saddle on my Nuovo Racing is long since dead, but being vegan, I really don't want to have to buy another leather one if I can avoid it. Am I SOL for any Eroica, or do I have recourse?
Brooks new Cambium line does not use leather, they are available in several colors and widths and have a traditional classic look...sorta
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Originally Posted by boomerbicyclist View Post
Sorry for the query, but can't find a good information source beyond the official Eroica site. My question is this: the Brooks saddle on my Nuovo Racing is long since dead, but being vegan, I really don't want to have to buy another leather one if I can avoid it. Am I SOL for any Eroica, or do I have recourse?
I've used a mid 80's Vetta Gel saddle and its worked well for me. I never rode Brooks on my Italvega, but I have picked up a used pair of them to try, just don't think I can get them dialed in in time for Eroica. As mentioned, virtually any vintage shaped saddle out of any material is sufficient. Unlikely though to get a thin highly cut out modern or modern looking saddle to pass muster, although honestly, there isn't any specific bike inspection and qualification by Eroica staff. Riders are expected to reasonably comply with equipment requirements in the spirit of the event.

I have a friend in Portland who may have some spare saddles, I'll contact him and see if he'd be able to contact you. Gugie and AndyK are also in your area so plenty of BF members in Portland who may be able to help you. You might want to post a WTB (want to buy) saddle request in the Classic and Vintage Sales forum and see what pops up.

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Originally Posted by boomerbicyclist View Post
Sorry for the query, but can't find a good information source beyond the official Eroica site. My question is this: the Brooks saddle on my Nuovo Racing is long since dead, but being vegan, I really don't want to have to buy another leather one if I can avoid it. Am I SOL for any Eroica, or do I have recourse?
I have the plastic Cinelli Unicanitor on my ItalVega as well as my Windsor Pro which are great for us Vegans. I also have older Brooks Pro saddles that are on my other bikes that I love. I hear you about leather and I do feel a bit strange about leather saddles , however , these saddles are pretty old and still in service . I am not sure I would buy a new one , maybe a Cambium? Joe
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Originally Posted by boomerbicyclist View Post
Sorry for the query, but can't find a good information source beyond the official Eroica site. My question is this: the Brooks saddle on my Nuovo Racing is long since dead, but being vegan, I really don't want to have to buy another leather one if I can avoid it. Am I SOL for any Eroica, or do I have recourse?
Seems like you could get a used one and avoid your dilema well enough. I realize it would not be perfect but you would be recycling one that may not get used.
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True enough. thanks, mate.
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Originally Posted by boomerbicyclist View Post
True enough. thanks, mate.
You will be fine with any Brooks at Leroica, if you have others that are working for you I would just move one over, no break in, no muss, no fuss. You can also post in, In Search Of thread, you might even find one in town. I have a bunch, but they are all in play.

I see you are in PDX, did you ever make it to Velo Cult for any of the shows?
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Originally Posted by velomateo View Post
Brooks new Cambium line does not use leather, they are available in several colors and widths and have a traditional classic look...sorta
I like mine, I like that it's weather-proof and not leather; I use it on my commute bike. But it's not exactly vintage looking.

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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
I like mine, I like that it's weather-proof and not leather; I use it on my commute bike. But it's not exactly vintage looking.
The solution is to sit on it. Everyone will note the vintage rider, and nod accordingly.

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Back Again for 2019

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As a reminder, I will tally those who indicate they are attending or riding ( on this thread and Gugie's thread, and any other relevant thread) for this 2019 Eroica California. I will gather that info in a Google spreadsheet and send links to anyone who would like to see it.

I know Gugie's thread has some social gathering info and plans but if anyone else wants to set up via this thread, no problems either.
I will be back again this year on my 1970s Windsor Profesional for the 85-mile ride. (I completed 62 miles of the previous Coastal Route in 2018 before being swept off the course at 5:00 pm. I am bound and determined to finish it *once* before I die...)

My Windsor Pro is light blue. Will be staying in Paso Robles agaion with friends, so more driving this year than last year. I will also be selling at the swap with Gabriel Salcedo from Sacramento.


Top of Palomares Road, near Castro Valley, CA. SAT, 3/23/19.
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This year I'll be riding a late 1980's Eisentraut Rainbow. 52-39 chainwheels and 13-26 cassette should be plenty for the short course. Heinz 57 group with Turbo saddle on a Campy seatpost, Dura-Ace single pivot calipers with 600 levers, 600 crankset, Dia-Compe ENE downtube shifters, and a SunTour Cyclone rear mech as a nod to my old Nishiki SunTour team. Electra Ticino wheelset with their sherrif star hubs. Look for the guy in the Nishiki/SunTour Montrose Cycle Club jersey.
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Here's a very helpful post from Classic Rendezvous from goldcoastjon, aka Jon Spangler regarding the rest stops on the 82 mile routes: I've Added the times stops will be open from various route maps and some comments in brackets and the chart for the 75 mile Santa Lucia route

Here are the rest stops for the 82-mile LA VIA DELLO SCALATORE ROUTE you posted the link to:

1) Cayucos Pier (~MP 16.5) 5:30am-10:00am
1a) Santa Rita Road summit (~MP 29.0) 6:00am-12:00pm)
2) Tin City (Templeton, ~MP 41.2) (8:30-11:00am)
3) Halter Ranch Winery (~MP 58) (9:30-2:30pm)
4) Cypress Mountain Road summit water stop (~MP 67.2) 10:00am-3:30pm) [[From here to finish (13.3 miles, its all downhill!! Yay!! Just be extra careful on the steep descents]]

Water stops will be at the Santa Rita Road and Cypress Mountain Road summits.
[[The Santa Lucia Route omits the Tin City, Templeton stop. The Heroic route adds the Olea Farms and Cass winery stops - see that route map and cue sheet for details. Bart ]]

Here is the message I received from Eric Benson of EC via Ride with GPS:
“Rest stops will be at Cayucos Pier, Tin City (Templeton) and Halter Ranch Winery. Water at Santa Rita and Cypress Mtn summits.”
The Santa Lucia Route is slightly shorter (nominally 75 miles, 5700' of climbing, and 20 miles of gravel/dirt per EC; 73.2 miles · +5,712 ft / -5,713 ft per RideWith GPS).
The longer Via Dello Scalatore Route (nominally 82 miles, 6400' of climbing, and 25 miles of dirt/gravel roads per EC; 78.9 miles, +6,343 ft / -6,349 ft per RideWith GPS)
also has the additional dirt-and-gravel climb of Kiler Canyon that Santa Lucia riders will avoid.

it looks as if there is a "bail-out" point on or near Santa Rita Road where tired or overmatched Via Dello Scalatore riders can opt for the less-demanding (Kiler-less) Santa Lucia Route.

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Santa Lucia route stops:

1) Cayucos Pier (~MP 16.6) 5:30am-10:00am
2) Santa Rita Road summit (~MP 29.0) 6:00am-12:00pm)
3) Halter Ranch Winery (~MP 50.4) (9:30-2:30pm)
4) Cypress Mountain Road summit water stop (~MP 59.7) 10:00am-3:30pm) [[From here to finish (14.2 miles, its all downhill!! Yay!! Just be extra careful on the steep descents. I don't know why the end route is 1 mile longer than the Scalatore route? ]]

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Here's my ride this year, a 1987 Davidson Challenge. Last year I was on a 1988 Davidson Challenge that I liked so much that I bought another.
The '87 has a slightly shorter seat tube and head tube and is built with the parts from the '88. The '88 is now sporting modern running gear.
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I'm signed up to do the long route again but I'll make a game time decision about that. I have a 300k the weekend before and a 400k the weekend after, so I may opt to dial it back a little.
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Wow, now that's a real workhorse of a bike. No nonsense. "Just the facts ma'am".
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Beautiful bike. I gather @brockd15 has had time to train this year:thumb.
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ooh boy, looking at Weather.com and long range forecast for Cambria and Templeton and by extension, the local region where Eroica will be;

10 Day forecast as follows:
Cambria, CA
FRI APR 5 Showers 65°52° 40% S 13 mph 76%
Cloudy with occasional rain showers. High around 65F. Winds S at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 40%.
FRI NIGHT APR 5 Showers --52° 40% SSE 9 mph 90%
Overcast with rain showers at times. Low 52F. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%.

SAT APR 6 Showers 64°51° 50% SSW 13 mph 79%
Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. High 64F. Winds SSW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
SAT NIGHT APR 6 Showers --51° 40% SSE 8 mph 88%
Cloudy with occasional rain showers. Low 51F. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%.

SUN APR 7 AM Showers 67°50° 30% W 14 mph 70%
Chance of a shower or two during the morning, followed by partly cloudy skies in the afternoon. High 67F. Winds W at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
SUN NIGHT APR 7 Partly Cloudy --50° 10% N 10 mph 84%
A few clouds. Low near 50F. Winds N at 10 to 15 mph.


Templeton, CA
Friday Apr 5 PM Showers 67°/50° 40% rain Wind S 14 mph 72% Hum
Cloudy in the morning, then off and on rain showers during the afternoon hours. High 67F. Winds S at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 40%.
Friday night Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. Low near 50F. Winds S at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40%.

Saturday April 6 Showers 64°48° 50% SW 14 mph 79%
Showers early becoming less numerous later in the day. High 64F. Winds SW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
SAT NIGHT APR 6 Showers --48° 40% S 9 mph 88%
Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. Low 48F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%. SUN

Sunday APR 7 AM Showers 68°/47°40% W 13 mph 66%
A shower or two possible early with partly cloudy skies in the afternoon. High 68F. Winds W at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 40%.
SUN NIGHT APR 7 Partly Cloudy--47° 10% NNW 10 mph 84% Partly cloudy. Low 47F. WNW winds shifting to NE at 10 to 15 mph.

So the routes could easily be wet or even muddy. Looks like a major challenge. Hope everyone come prepared for all eventualities and have stuff ready to clear much off the fork clearances.

Let's hope the rain is sporadic or blows through quickly.

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Well, the ride is supposed to be "heroic". I do know that rain can come down extremely hard in that area, but the forecast makes the rain (if there is any) seem sporadic, which is good. These forecasts are always subject to change though, I have better luck just looking at the Doppler radar loops the day I'm riding than believing forecasts, which only give you an idea what's possible, not what's actually gonna happen rain-wise.

Here's to hoping for a minimum of "heroism" that day.
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Lemond, what do you think it would be like on Cypress mountain descent if it only had rained the day/night before? A few years ago, it had rained the Saturday before the event, and they altered the course to skirt by Kiler because they said it was muddy.
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Unfortunately, I don't know any of those climbs without actual road names. I was on the unpaved portion of Santa Rita Ranch Road last summer, and it was pretty dusty. Lots of people commute to work on that road during the week. Which leads me to believe there would be some mud if it rained. Still passable, but likely be more messy and inconvenient than anything. But arguably more "heroic".

The pavement is also pretty bad, a lot of those roads are not very well-maintained at all, but that's to be expected. Be careful on some of the shoulders that have gotten washed out by the heavy rains this year, they can be much more dangerous than you might expect. Takes forever for roads in CA to get fixed, much longer than you would expect in a place that's surrounded by such expensive houses.
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The year they avoided Kiler it was because it was completely impassable to even 4WD vehicles due to mud.

Based on my experience a few years ago at Eroica Gaiole, be sure to bring a plastic bag to cover both the top and bottom of your leather saddle. I didn't and my saddle was completely ruined by the spray coming up from the back wheel (not to mention that everybody on that ride got completely drenched and covered in brown mud). I had to periodically use sticks to clear the mud from around the stays and forks when the buildup became so great that the wheels stopped turning. Hopefully we won't get into conditions that bad in Cambria/Paso.
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I’ll go out on a limb and predict the rain is called off by the time we get there and the dirt will be in excellent shape (slightly soft and not dusty). roads will be crap, but that’s everywhere in CA. . Solvang a few weeks ago should rightly be sold as a cobble ride.

positive thinking guys!
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Agreed.
Plus, we have all day to get muddy, ride our old bikes, and have fun.
What could be better than that?
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i'm on board with whatever! I wait all year to see some of my bike buddies and that's what plastic UnicaNitor saddles are for. Perfect weather for my Rusty Resurrection!!! We can all be assured of a great time , rain or shine. It is not like my ItalVega has never seen rain,

My Eroica ItalVega!
or sun for that matter, Joe joesvintageroadbikes.wordpress
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(not to mention that everybody on that ride got completely drenched and covered in brown mud). I had to periodically use sticks to clear the mud from around the stays and forks when the buildup became so great that the wheels stopped turning. Hopefully we won't get into conditions that bad in Cambria/Paso.
That does it. I'm gonna attach the back rack and panniers to keep some rain gear and fresh clothes. Maybe strap on long piece of vintage cardboard to keep back clean. (No Amazon boxes please!)
Can't use fenders in that mud?
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That does it. I'm gonna attach the back rack and panniers to keep some rain gear and fresh clothes. Maybe strap on long piece of vintage cardboard to keep back clean. (No Amazon boxes please!)
Can't use fenders in that mud?
Don't get too radical just yet. I just checked the Cambria 10-day forecast and currently no rain is forecast for Sunday (though it is forecast for Thursday, Friday and a tiny bit on Saturday: https://www.wunderground.com/forecas...=localwx_10day
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