Never would I ever...
10-20-18, 10:54 PM
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Never would I ever...
Convert a bicycle to 650b. I mean, why take a bike that was intentionally designed for a specific wheel size and put an entirely different wheel size on it?! It’s not like I would ever convert a handful of bikes from 27” to 700c or four bikes to 650b, buy a truing stand and tools to build two of those wheesets and think that anyone who rides tires narrower than 28mm is just nuts...
Or start collecting Treks. Who cares about a bike company that is now one of the world’s largest bike sellers and no longer produce bikes in the USA? They may have been innovators in the late 70’s and produced fine, handcrafted bikes that were simple, understated, and timeless classics, but why would I want to own four of them, two of which are a composed pair for me and my wife and are 650b conversions?! That’s just crazy talk....
So what did you think you would never do when you started on the path of C/V?
Or start collecting Treks. Who cares about a bike company that is now one of the world’s largest bike sellers and no longer produce bikes in the USA? They may have been innovators in the late 70’s and produced fine, handcrafted bikes that were simple, understated, and timeless classics, but why would I want to own four of them, two of which are a composed pair for me and my wife and are 650b conversions?! That’s just crazy talk....
So what did you think you would never do when you started on the path of C/V?
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10-20-18, 11:06 PM
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Have more than 2 bikes.
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10-20-18, 11:30 PM
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Isn't a 25mm tire an unwieldy compromise?
10-20-18, 11:33 PM
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I won`t say I will never put fat tires on a beautiful steel road bike, I am just not ready to admit I am old yet. 
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10-20-18, 11:40 PM
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[edit] Oh, you mean stuff that you thought you'd NEVER do, but you actually ended up doing? In my case, the answer would be "spend $1000 on a bike." (Twice).
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10-20-18, 11:43 PM
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Never thought that I would build and ride tubular tires. Oops! the last four bikes I build, all have sew-ups installed...
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10-21-18, 02:13 AM
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I never thought I’d fall in love with old French bikes. Now it is an addiction.
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I told myself, some years ago that I will never fall for Campy's siren song like everyone does............
Heck, I was having lots of fun with all my "Tout French" builds and dang, did I really hate the way the only Campy component I bought in a moment of weakness back in 1984, performed on my bike (An NR RD).
But then I noticed my last two builds were full Campy.... ........same goes for my present one.....full SR to boot...
I AM DOOMED!
Heck, I was having lots of fun with all my "Tout French" builds and dang, did I really hate the way the only Campy component I bought in a moment of weakness back in 1984, performed on my bike (An NR RD).
But then I noticed my last two builds were full Campy.... ........same goes for my present one.....full SR to boot...
I AM DOOMED!
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10-21-18, 05:32 AM
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^^^ You so are. I used to sneer at Campy as overpriced and under-performing jewelry. So now of course most of my collection wears that jewelry...
10-21-18, 06:18 AM
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....thought that I would build up an aluminum Flyte SRS3 $99 eBay NOS size 56 sloping top tube frame as an experiment on fit and then make it a 10 year + labor of love to optimize that fit and the mechanical precision of the bike to where it has pretty much taken over as my top “steed”. It is heavy by modern standards (~22 pounds), can ride rough with the wrong tires or is the headset is not perfect but maybe it is the fit - it feels right.
For this reason I have 2 Masi’s, 3 Kleins, my old Saint Tropez, 2 touring Cannondales and 2 Puchs just sitting on the back burner.
Suddenly though, 2 titanium players - a compact Veritas I got used with a wonky seat tube/seatpost junction and a brand new Wittson Illuminati through axle disc are working on me to bring them into the forefront of daily riders. Right now the Veritas is winning. What a great climber! Now if I could just get the sleeve in the seat tube to quit creaking while not allowing the carbon post to subtly rotate right mid-ride, I would be really onto something.
I notice a pattern for us nuts...the tendency is not for “n+1” but for duets and trifectas of particular iterations.
Hell, I have two NOS Klein Stages -size 57 in gloss red that just showed up at my doorstep. How did that happen?
For this reason I have 2 Masi’s, 3 Kleins, my old Saint Tropez, 2 touring Cannondales and 2 Puchs just sitting on the back burner.
Suddenly though, 2 titanium players - a compact Veritas I got used with a wonky seat tube/seatpost junction and a brand new Wittson Illuminati through axle disc are working on me to bring them into the forefront of daily riders. Right now the Veritas is winning. What a great climber! Now if I could just get the sleeve in the seat tube to quit creaking while not allowing the carbon post to subtly rotate right mid-ride, I would be really onto something.
I notice a pattern for us nuts...the tendency is not for “n+1” but for duets and trifectas of particular iterations.
Hell, I have two NOS Klein Stages -size 57 in gloss red that just showed up at my doorstep. How did that happen?
10-21-18, 06:29 AM
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Buy anything not Italian.
Technically, the Chapman was for the spouse, so actually, still going with that one.
Technically, the Chapman was for the spouse, so actually, still going with that one.
10-21-18, 06:39 AM
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I'm a working-class schlub and very Fred-esque! I said that I'd never own any Campy-equipped bikes - and still don't! Same goes for French or Italians... I learned my lesson back in the early-mid '70s with all of those oddball threadings and sizes while wrenching at a LBS.
I never said that I'd own 'duplicate bikes' or whatever that means... But now all I have are duplicates Two three-speeds, two MTBs, two lower-end 'bike shop quality' road bikes (as opposed to discount store BSOs), two mid-upper road bikes, two longer-wheelbase touring bikes, two 'beater bikes'...
Three helmets, four pairs of classic crochet-back cycling gloves, two floor pumps, three Zefal HP frame pumps... Shall we even talk about vintage Cannondale bags? Four seat bags, two handlebar bags, two sets of rear panniers ( I DID sell yet another one
)...
Uh, Oh....
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My name is Cougar CJ, and I have an addiction....
I never said that I'd own 'duplicate bikes' or whatever that means... But now all I have are duplicates Two three-speeds, two MTBs, two lower-end 'bike shop quality' road bikes (as opposed to discount store BSOs), two mid-upper road bikes, two longer-wheelbase touring bikes, two 'beater bikes'...
Three helmets, four pairs of classic crochet-back cycling gloves, two floor pumps, three Zefal HP frame pumps... Shall we even talk about vintage Cannondale bags? Four seat bags, two handlebar bags, two sets of rear panniers ( I DID sell yet another one
)...Uh, Oh....
< Ahem... >
My name is Cougar CJ, and I have an addiction....
10-21-18, 06:42 AM
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...buy a brand-spanking new road bike. I was riding a century on my trusty Miyata, telling someone how I had owned it for so long, and I wouldn't even consider a new bike. A month later I bought a Jamis Quest. I thought the Miyata was pretty good because I didn't know what I was missing. I still like old bikes, but the Quest is my go-to for long rides.
10-21-18, 06:53 AM
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10-21-18, 07:06 AM
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I am guilty with the Campagnolo, I said I would never own it, now It is on some of my classic bikes and I have 3 groups waiting for the frames. Some bikes really do need it. I do have a good amount of Suntour bikes though. Keeping it real.
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10-21-18, 07:34 AM
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I’m generally in the never-say-never camp, but I do remember thinking that I had no interest in index shifting systems, much less brifters, having come of age in the golden era of friction shifting. Well, now all of the bikes I ride the most either have brifters or bar-end indexed shifters (and a couple of downtube indexers). Maybe it’s the influence of all the Sturmey Archer hub equipped bikes I’ve ridden over the years.
10-21-18, 08:20 AM
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I remain the retrogrouch among you. Never had Campy, nor a European bike. Hate brifters and gripshift and dislike bar ends. I do, however, have more road bikes than I would have ever thought necessary. It started with one extra in case of an unexpected repair. Then I got into wrenching and HEAVEN FORBID!! wheelbuilding. "I will NEVER attempt to build a wheel!" It's become the most satisfying aspect of wrenching, though I do it infrequently. This time next year, I will have 5 active road bikes, a coupled road bike, a home built hybrid, and one mtb. And one extra frame set. And then, I'm telling myself, I'll stop.
10-21-18, 08:44 AM
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I hate downtube shifters. My first road bike, a Schwinn Continental had them, and I hated them. My first race bike, new in '64 was a Legnano Roma (still is), and it came with Campy bar ends. Not true racer stuff, but they worked for me. Had a Bianchi for a while with down tubes, but indexed. The Bianchi got killed by a car. By then I had discovered Shimano STi, so I rebuilt it with those on a new frame. I have a series of modern bikes, all brifters, even Di2. I recently built up a Raleigh Super Course using Suntour bar ends, love them. Then a '78 Peugeot came along with Simplex down tube shifters. I immediately bought another set of Suntour bar ends. I'm kind of enjoying the Simplex down tubes. The Suntour bar ends are still on the work bench. Never thought I'd say it, but I kind of like the down tube shifters ... after a gap of 20 years.
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10-21-18, 09:29 AM
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Go beyond 6 speeds - much less build a bike with brifters and modern(ish) components.
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I never thought I'd buy a recumbent, but neck issues led me down that path. It's not a bad path, but I didn't like staying off my upright bikes. Fortunately, I got some proper physical therapy and got back on my upright bikes and feel much better!
Lots of other "I never thought" ideas too.... never thought I'd still be able to buy new production freewheels so long after they were nominally obsolete, never thought my Brooks saddles would last so long (or I wouldn't have bought 4 spares), etc. Life is full of surprises!
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(I still ride the 'bents some, just to maintain the skills and muscles)
Lots of other "I never thought" ideas too.... never thought I'd still be able to buy new production freewheels so long after they were nominally obsolete, never thought my Brooks saddles would last so long (or I wouldn't have bought 4 spares), etc. Life is full of surprises!
Steve in Peoria
(I still ride the 'bents some, just to maintain the skills and muscles)