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Old 10-24-18, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Kactus
Has anyone ever used Challenge tubulars?
I liked the 27mm paragi-roubaix version but I put a gash in my rear tire and haven't ridden them in a while... they were really nice though.
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Originally Posted by clasher
I liked the 27mm paragi-roubaix version but I put a gash in my rear tire and haven't ridden them in a while... they were really nice though.
I have a pair and have no complaints. As I noted below though, they do get mixed reviews. Maybe uneven QC. Also, although I do like them, I cannot offer a comparison with other high quality choices. I do know they are much nicer than the 3/$50 Yellow Jersey tires I had before.
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
That's probably the worst way to get started on Tubular Tires. The set I tried were more square than round and rode like a garden hose filled with frozen water. You get what you pay for.
I'll find out I guess. But, at $18 a tire, I'll at least get to practice gluing my first set for very cheap, and if they suck I can buy a better pair and already have some experiencing gluing.
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Originally Posted by due ruote

I have a pair and have no complaints. As I noted below though, they do get mixed reviews. Maybe uneven QC. Also, although I do like them, I cannot offer a comparison with other high quality choices. I do know they are much nicer than the 3/$50 Yellow Jersey tires I had before.
I have found the Challenge PRs to be a bit of a mystery. The first set I had proved to be fragile, flatting on multiple occasions. I got a second set on some wheels I bought. They have proven to be much more durable. I find the ride to be similar to that of the Vittorias I own. It has been my experience that Vittoria and Challenge are more prone to flatting.
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So, any favorites out there? Tips or suggestions? I’m all ears. Thanks
That bike totally deserves FMBs.
PARIS ROUBAIX
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Just a few comments and personal opinions/observations...I don't care for the harsh ride and mounting difficulty of Continental tubulars...especially the Gatorskins..
.Challenge tubulars are all over the map WRT quality control. When they are good, they are among the best riding. On the other hand they very often have problems with lumpiness and very often suffer from tread and basetape lamination after a moderate amount of use.
Vittoria tubulars are generally good. Recently the models have changed frequently as if they were a fashion item, so it's sometimes hard to get the same tire that you used and liked....
FMB. I want to like FMB They have a great range, handmade in France and ride great when new. However.....They frequently suffer from tred and basetape delamination problems. This has been going on for years and is completely unacceptable-especially for such a premium product.
Veloflex. The king of tubulars. They have a limited range, but it pretty well covers most road uses. They mount straight, never lumpy, are reasonably long-lasting and puncture proof. They have a great supple ride ad are fast. Easily my favorites. They are not cheap, but are pretty reasonable when purchased from various UK suppliers...
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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy
sweet bike!
I've got a copper International and a Raleigh Team in team colors, and still have the urge to pick up a Pro in the blue mink & silver paint scheme... <sigh>. Raleigh's marketing was certainly effective in my case!

as far as tubulars go, I've got some Conti Sprinters on my Olmo. Nice tires, well made, durable, but not especially thrilling. Not so fond of the black sidewalls either. I think I need to try some that Lynn suggested.

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If you're serious about the 24 1/2" Pro in those colors, PM me.
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Originally Posted by El Chaba
FMB. I want to like FMB They have a great range, handmade in France and ride great when new. However.....They frequently suffer from tred and basetape delamination problems. This has been going on for years and is completely unacceptable-especially for such a premium product.
Is this from personal experience in the recent past? I cannot say I have encountered the issue in four years of use. I do know that they did have had such issues in the past but not recently AFAIK.
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Veloflex. They have a limited range.
When I rode the Criteriums years ago, I would agree. Maybe 2K out of the rear, but they were thin at 1.5. I imagine their Records are worse.

I switched to their PRs and haven't looked back. An easy 3K on the rear without worries about a large blow-out due to thin tread.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
That bike totally deserves FMBs.
PARIS ROUBAIX

$110 a piece though, ouch. I’m tempted...

Looks like there is a deal on Veloflex Roubaix right now, only the all black option though.

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Originally Posted by Raleigh74



$110 a piece though, ouch. I’m tempted...

Looks like there is a deal on Veloflex Roubaix right now, only the all black option though.
That beautiful Raleigh just wouldn't look right with black sidewalls.
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Originally Posted by Raleigh74



$110 a piece though, ouch. I’m tempted...

Looks like there is a deal on Veloflex Roubaix right now, only the all black option though.
The Roubaix only have a tan sidewall. Or at least that's what it says on the veloflex.it site.
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Originally Posted by CV-6
Is this from personal experience in the recent past? I cannot say I have encountered the issue in four years of use. I do know that they did have had such issues in the past but not recently AFAIK.
My personal experience ended 2 years ago at which Time I was finished with them. I have a friend who just ditched a pair last month...I'm not aware of him having a stash of aging tires so I would guess that the problem continues today at least on an intermittent basis...
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Originally Posted by iab
When I rode the Criteriums years ago, I would agree. Maybe 2K out of the rear, but they were thin at 1.5. I imagine their Records are worse.

I switched to their PRs and haven't looked back. An easy 3K on the rear without worries about a large blow-out due to thin tread.
I should clarify...by "limited range" I meant that they don't offer cyclocross tires or tires suitable for heavy gravel roads, etc.....I find that the mileage that I get out of Veloflex tires is at least equal to the competition....
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I'm thinking of trying the Veloflex next. For rocky 200k event tires, would the Roubaix or Arenberg offer sidewall protection that approximates a Sprinter Gatorskin?
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I'm thinking of trying the Veloflex next. For rocky 200k event tires, would the Roubaix or Arenberg offer sidewall protection that approximates a Sprinter Gatorskin?
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Ummm, I've been riding Veloflex Criteriums, been quite happy. Also used Vittoria Corsa somethingorother. Hard to tell the difference on the road.
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I just purchased these since they were recommended here and on sale:

https://www.merlincycles.com/en-us/v...re-102404.html

It looks like most Veloflex tires are on sale there now.
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