What's wrong with these pictures?
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1) cups are on backwards. What kinda gorilla do you have to be to do that?
2) cable guide is actually in correct orientation
3) cutouts in the lug are standard
4) spindles need two ends
5) No, it's not your bike, Miguel! I paid for it fair and square!
6) but it's amazing you've seen it before, this is my first time!
7) This frame had zero original parts on it, so the blokes at Carlton had nothing to do with it.
Really, how the heck did this idjit do this? It wasn't on my radar to check to see if the bottom bracket cups were put on the correct side when I bought this. I was stripping the frame down to bare when I found the cups in backwards, and thought WTF?
The "fixed" cup required using the proper tool and an improper dead blow hammer to loosen. The "adjustable" cup wouldn't budge with a pin tool. I had to grind opposing flats (the cup was too hard for filing), then chuck it in my vice and use the frame for leverage. My bad shoulder was barking at me after unscrewing that one.
Pulled out the face and chase tools and restored it all. Amazingly, the threads didn't look too bad after that. There was a pile of metal shavings to blow out, but I think there'll be no long term damage.
2) cable guide is actually in correct orientation
3) cutouts in the lug are standard
4) spindles need two ends
5) No, it's not your bike, Miguel! I paid for it fair and square!
6) but it's amazing you've seen it before, this is my first time!
7) This frame had zero original parts on it, so the blokes at Carlton had nothing to do with it.
Really, how the heck did this idjit do this? It wasn't on my radar to check to see if the bottom bracket cups were put on the correct side when I bought this. I was stripping the frame down to bare when I found the cups in backwards, and thought WTF?
The "fixed" cup required using the proper tool and an improper dead blow hammer to loosen. The "adjustable" cup wouldn't budge with a pin tool. I had to grind opposing flats (the cup was too hard for filing), then chuck it in my vice and use the frame for leverage. My bad shoulder was barking at me after unscrewing that one.
Pulled out the face and chase tools and restored it all. Amazingly, the threads didn't look too bad after that. There was a pile of metal shavings to blow out, but I think there'll be no long term damage.
much easier to use the sheldon bolt method
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/tooltips/bbcups.html
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But that method looks like a good thing to add to the bag of tricks.
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10-30-18, 02:42 PM
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I like it even better when the moral of the story is to buy more power tools.
;-)
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I used the Sheldon bolt method once. The cup came out, but it took some grunting. It made quite an impression on my tool.
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I've tried the Sheldon method. The bolt just slipped on the cup.
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Many years ago a LBS switched the fixed and adjustable BB cups on my steel Trek frame. Apparently whoever did the deed just gorilla-armed it and the BB cups cut new (reversed) threads into the shell... Unfortunately I didn't notice until much later, when I had the bike at another (better) shop for some maintenance. They were able to get the cups out and re-tapped the shell, then reassembled correctly. Had to use Loctite from then on to keep the cups from creaking in the compromised shell. Original shop is long since out of business...
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you really have to tighten the nut down ,while holding the bolt head, (or vice versa) before movement starts any good quality cup is going to be much harder than the lock washer and flat washer. it takes some coordination and is ton's easier with 2 people
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11-01-18, 12:47 PM
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Many years ago a LBS switched the fixed and adjustable BB cups on my steel Trek frame. Apparently whoever did the deed just gorilla-armed it and the BB cups cut new (reversed) threads into the shell... Unfortunately I didn't notice until much later, when I had the bike at another (better) shop for some maintenance. They were able to get the cups out and re-tapped the shell, then reassembled correctly. Had to use Loctite from then on to keep the cups from creaking in the compromised shell. Original shop is long since out of business...
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Many years ago a LBS switched the fixed and adjustable BB cups on my steel Trek frame. Apparently whoever did the deed just gorilla-armed it and the BB cups cut new (reversed) threads into the shell... Unfortunately I didn't notice until much later, when I had the bike at another (better) shop for some maintenance. They were able to get the cups out and re-tapped the shell, then reassembled correctly. Had to use Loctite from then on to keep the cups from creaking in the compromised shell. Original shop is long since out of business...
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One more thing: New hire pasted a fork decal on the down tube! Don
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You mean seat tube, not down tube.
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I thought random decal variations were one of the indicators that it's a genuine Raleigh.
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"I think that Carlton decal is a proper down tube decal"
You're probably correct and I failed to think it through: My pic is of a Super Course fork which isn't 531. I just focused on the triangular shape usually seen on fork decals. Don
You're probably correct and I failed to think it through: My pic is of a Super Course fork which isn't 531. I just focused on the triangular shape usually seen on fork decals. Don
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You say Grand,
I say Gran,
You say Sports
I say Sports,
Let's call the whole thing off.
I say Gran,
You say Sports
I say Sports,
Let's call the whole thing off.
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Lets call the whole thing off
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So what are the plans for the "new" International?
... and will it get a new moniker? My vote is for "Interplanetary".
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Used a cheater bar and she popped right out.The other thing I like about the Sheldon tool is you are less likely to slip and smash the wrench into the chainstay.
As to the mechanic who reversed them:
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