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Are there any beautiful Chinese lugged steels?

Old 10-31-18, 03:14 AM
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Are there any beautiful Chinese lugged steels?

for under $500 for a frameset? I remember seeing some Chinese ones on ebay then they disappeared like a fart in the wind without a trace.
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Old 10-31-18, 08:37 AM
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Maxway from Taiwan.
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There are craftsman everywhere; just a matter of them being allowed to practice that craft and make a living at it. Taiwan notwithstanding, I'd be surprised, in a country as large as China, if there aren't more high-end frames than here in the US. Statistically, it would make sense, anyway, but the system overcomes a lot of statistics. I have sold nice frames to both Taiwanese and Chinese buyers. They do like Italian stuff.

The Taiwan bike market is varied and active, and fascinating. They have their own mini-cults of bikes, like custom-painted Bridgestone Radacs. There are a couple of bloggers/bike gurus in Taiwan with good influence and a sense of humor. There is also some beautiful riding available, if you have the nerve to play with those drivers.
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search taobao. there are lugged frames coming out of China and would almost for sure be less than $500usd. Also, they would almost for sure not be made with whatever tubing is advertised. <---simply general skepticism based on past comments ive read.

Maxway is a big steel frame builder in Taiwan, but everything I see from them in the $400-700 price range is tig'd. They do lugged though.
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Alibaba has a load of them but there´s a big chance these are just stolen photos with photoshopped brand decals. I can´t actually find any available on sale on Western e commerce sites.
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I suspect you can still buy a Flying Pigeon if you try hard enough. Those were/are lugged.



I think you are better off looking in Taiwan rather than mainland China. Production was starting to shift there during the the lugged steel era, and they have a history of lugged frame production. KHS, Giant, etc. Of course now most everyone has gone to TIG welding. Modern bike production in the mainland started after the lugged era AFAIK, except for the old fashioned roadsters of course. These days lugged frames are sort of a specialist enthusiast thing. It is a very big country though so who knows.

If your real interest is simply a bargain price for a fully lugged traditional frame, best approach is get a used frame/bike. Still millions of them out there.
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@RobbieTunes, have you seen Fixed Gear Girl Taiwan?
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Go Look.

Taiwan has bike companies with high end quality. if you are willing to pay for it.

Are You?

I bought a New Japanese frame & fork for under $500,

but I expect, that was before your first birthday






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Originally Posted by Obeast View Post
...they disappeared like a fart in the wind without a trace.
This is a good thing. Would you actually bid on such a bike, when you can't find an example of one anywhere?

Let sleeping dogs lie.
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The only Chinese brand I can think of off the top of my head is Factory Five, which is based in Shanghai. I think they had road and track frames, although it seems like they've been winding down in the last year or so (most frames in the online shop seem to be sold out). Also, they may have been more than $500 retail.



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